Donkey Lays is a service from the Pro Betting Club stable of tipsters and lays horses to lose in the win and place markets on Betfair.
Horses are only a selection if the odds are below 4.0 in the place market on Betfair at the off – if they are below 4.0, then you lay them in the win and place market. It’s a case or both or neither.
Whilst the cut-off of 4.0 does limit the liabilities somewhat, it can still allow horses to be laid in the win market at quite high odds, so a decent sized bank is required if following this service.
We have been running Honest Betting Reviews for over six years now and have found very few good laying services in that time, with notable exceptions like Little Acorns.
So when we came across Donkey Lays which had some promising results coming into our trial, we had a mixture of scepticism and hope.
Scepticism because we have seen many promising laying services in the past that only turned out to be disappointing in the end, but hope that this time might be different…
It is strange in a way that there aren’t more good laying services out there, as in theory it should be possible to make a profit from it in the same way as you can from backing.
In any event, we ran a three month trial of Donkey Lays and in that time there was a good sample size of 428 lay bets.
As we say, some of the lays can be at quite high odds on the win part of the bet and in fact the trial started off with an unsuccessful lay at odds of 18.0, thus dropping 17 points on the very first bet. Not a great start!
Whilst that did not appear to auger well, it was actually the highest unsuccessful lay of the trial and things did improve considerably from there.
In fact we are pleased to report that the trial finished with a profit of 37 points, which is very commendable when you consider it was at one-point level stakes laying.
As you can see from the graph below, after a tough start they recovered nicely over the rest of the trial:
The only real issue we had was that – as mentioned in our review updates below – there were quite a large number of discrepancies between our results and the official Pro Betting Club ones (via the proofed-tipsters website).
This was a continual problem throughout our trial and we never really received an adequate explanation from the Pro Betting Club about it. They just said it was “A system error on the proofed tipsters page,” which didn’t really clarify things for us.
However, in terms of overall results, ours were actually somewhat better than the official ones (+37 points vs +21 points), so we don’t think it was a case of them trying to embellish the results or anything like that. It was just that for some reason the results didn’t appear to be reported accurately at their end.
That does give us cause for concern as any serious tipping platform or tipster site should be fastidious about the accurate reporting of their results. At the same time though, we don’t think it is fair to criticize Donkey Lays itself for that as the service made a healthy profit during our review.
So we are happy to award the service itself a PASSED rating as one of the very few laying services to have completed a successful review with us over the years, but with a proviso that we hope the Pro Betting Club can ensure the accurate reporting of results going forward.
Service Breakdown
Ease of use: You have to log in to the site each morning to find the bets as they are not provided by e-mail. Generally we prefer it when tips are sent by e-mail as it is easier for members and means you are less likely to miss or forget about the tips, but we can understand some services opt for a log-in option as it is less likely for tips to be shared.
In any event, there are an average of 4-5 tips per day and if you are placing them manually you will need to check the place odds close to the off to ensure they are under 4.0. There is a bot you can set up (at extra cost) to place the bets though if you are not around to monitor the races during the day (which we imagine most people won’t be).
Availability of prices: As Betfair SP is used for recording purposes, there are no issues with obtaining prices.
Strike rate: The strike rate for the trial was 77%, which is a very good level and meant lots of winning bets throughout the trial.
Advised Betting Bank: We couldn’t find a specific betting bank recommended for this service, but used a 100 point betting bank for the purposes of this review.
Subscription costs: The subscription costs at the time of writing are £39.50 per month or £89.50 per quarter.
OVERALL VERDICT: PASSED
In over six years of operating this site we have found very few good laying services, so we are pleased to report that horse racing laying service Donkey Lays finished our three month trial with a profit of 37 points.
With a high strike rate of 77% and a decent ROI of 9%, the service is worthy of a PASSED rating from us.
The only issue we had were a number of discrepancies between our results and the official ones, although the official ones actually recorded a lower profit for our trial period so we don’t think it was a case of trying to embellish their results, it just seemed to be some kind of system error.
In any event, you can’t fault Donkey Lays for that as they just produce the tips, we just hope that the Pro Betting Club can improve their processes and ensure the accurate reporting of results going forward.
Just a reminder that horses are only a selection with this system if the odds are below 4.0 in the place market at the off. If they are, then you lay the horse in both the win and place markets.
That can mean you are laying at high odds in the win market in some instances (up to 18 so far for example), so a decent sized betting bank is recommended – we would say at least 150-200 points.
Anyway, good work from them over the last month – let’s see if it continues.
The trial started off in the worst possible fashion with the first lay being unsuccessful at odds of 18.0 – ouch! But they have fought back well, particularly over the last week or so to get themselves back level for our trial.
Just a note that there are couple of small discrepancies between our results and the official results, which we have notified the Pro Betting Club of. These make very little difference to the overall results (just one point in fact), just the odd selection that should/should not have been a qualifier according to the system rules.
Anyway, let’s see if there’s some positive progress from them over the next month.
We’ve probably all been there. A horse that runs like it’s only get three legs. Or is moving in quicksand. Or it’s actually a donkey.
Yep, those wretched selections that look like they couldn’t win a race if they ran every day between now and the next millennium.
Well the service we are starting a review of today specialises in finding those very horses. Strange, you may say, to target such beasts. But in fact they are betting on these horses to lose – phew!
Donkey Lays is a service from the Pro Betting Club stable of tipsters and lays horses to lose in the win and place markets on Betfair.
Horses are only a selection if the odds are below 4.0 in the place market at the off. Whilst that does limit the liabilities somewhat, it can still allow horses to be laid in the win market at 18.0, so a decent sized bank is required if following this service.
Donkey Lays has been running for five months now on the Pro Betting Club platform and each of those months so far has been profitable:-
– January 2021: +31.93 points
– December 2020: +16.3 points
– November: +46.09 points
– October: +28.81 points
– September: +44.11 points
So that’s 167 points profit in total.
The lays in the win market have had a 90% strike rate so far and the lays in the place market have had a 67% strike rate. Those are very solid figures and mean a high proportion of successful lays.
Now we should point out that of all the laying services we’ve tried here at HBR, only one is still standing after passing a trial and that is Little Acorns.
So it’s a tough discipline to succeed in but Donkey Lays looks promising enough to test out and see if it can break the mould.
Please note we started proofing on 1st February so will record results from then. As ever we will update results here as we go along.
That’s all we can say really – wow. What a trial it’s been for the Golf Insider. Over 400 points profit made to advised prices is spectacular stuff and one of the best trials we have ever run here at Honest Betting Reviews.
In fact we’ve scoured the record and that is indeed the highest points total ever recorded by a tipster in a live trial in the nearly six years we’ve been running Honest Betting Reviews.
And the return on investment (ROI) of 47% is also one of the best ever recorded.
They landed some massive winners during our trial – in fact in the very first week of our review they hit a 50/1 winner with Tyrrell Hatton at the Arnold Palmer Invitational. And they book-ended our trial with a winner in their very last tip as well, this time with a 15/2 shot in the shape of Messrs English & Kuchar at the QBE Shootout.
In between those successes the Golf Insider also landed the following winners during our trial:-
– Martin Laird – Shriners Hospitals for Children Open – WON at 250/1
– Marc Warren – Austria Open – WON at 150/1
– Robert MacIntyre – Cyprus Showdown – WON at 30/1
– Xander Schauffele – Tour Championship – WON at 12/1
– Dustin Johnson – Northern Trust – WON at 20/1
– Camilo Villegas – RSM Classic – PLACED at 500/1 (i.e. 75/1 for the place)
So members have had a huge amount to celebrate this year with some fantastic winners and we have been very pleased to have been following the service with our own money. That’s how highly we rate the Golf Insider.
All in all there isn’t much else left to say apart from this is a definite PASSED rating and five stars. Congrats to the Golf Insider on a record-breaking trial!
Service Breakdown
Ease of use: It’s a pretty simple service to follow with around just 8 bets per week on average, nearly all in the outright markets. The tips are sent out by both e-mail and text message and usually a day or two before the tournaments start.
Availability of prices: Most of the time the advised prices were generally available, although it is advisable to get on as soon as you can on the big prices (100/1+) as they tend to get pushed in. Within an hour or two of the tips being sent is usually fine – you certainly don’t want to leave it to the next day though.
Strike rate: As with virtually all golf services, the strike rate was quite low at 11% so patience is required if following the tips. As long as you have a sensible bank though and are prepared to weather some losing runs, the rewards to date have been phenomenal.
Advised Betting Bank: A 500 point bank is advised for following the service if using the advised staking, which we think is about the right level for this service. If using flat staking at 1pt e/w then a 200 point bank is recommend.
Subscription costs: The subscription costs are £37 + VAT per month which is reasonable given the results achieved.
OVERALL VERDICT: PASSED
Phenomenal. Fantastic. Unbelievable. We have run out of superlatives to describe the results of the Golf Insider, but it’s probably enough to say this was a record-breaking trial for us at Honest Betting Reviews, with the highest points total ever recorded by a tipster during one of our trials, at over 400 points profit made. That’s over £4,000 at advised stakes.
The return on investment was a stunning 47% so it’s obviously no surprise that this receives a PASSED rating and is fully deserving of the rare award of 5 stars from us. It’s a service we have been following with our own money and we’ve had plenty of huge winners to toast this year. Congrats – and a big thank you – to the brilliant Golf Insider for the winners this year.
It was obviously the Masters last week and whilst their headline pick Brooks Koepka returned place money, none of the other picks got in the mix and of course Dustin Johnson rather ran away with things on the final day so it wasn’t quite the excitement we’ve come to expect from a Masters Sunday.
Even though we are in late November there are still some high quality events left this season on the European Tour so hopefully we can pick up some more profit before the end of the year.
The profits are down in the main to a brilliant 250/1 winner in the shape of Martin Laird at the Shriners Open, which was wildly celebrated by members – ourselves included!
That was nearly followed up by another winner last night as Xander Schauffele just missed out at the CJ Cup, finishing second after being tied for the lead with three holes to play.
Still it’s been a great month and a great trial for this service which is almost certainly heading for a passed rating – with bells on!
Even with the dip over the last month they have still managed 20/1 and 12/1 winners in the shape of Dustin Johnson and Xander Schauffele, so at least members have had some returns to soften the blow.
The US Open last week was a tough ask with many fancied players finding it too tough but the regular season is back underway again and there is the Masters to look forward to in November so plenty of golf action to get stuck into.
Most of the profits came from a stunning 150/1 winner in the shape of Marc Warren at the Austrian Open which came in very welcome for members judging by some of the messages received!
Since then it’s been a little up and down but some good place finishes have been landed to keep things ticking along. Jason Day went close to bagging a big win at the PGA on Sunday but was just pipped at the post by the brilliance of Collin Morikawa down the stretch.
Anyway, good to see the continued progress here of what looks like a top class service.
Our trial of the Golf Insider got off to a fantastic start before the covid break, as they landed a 50/1 winner at the Arnold Palmer Invitational in the shape of Tyrrell Hatton.
That was the last tournament before the enforced break so it was rather frustrating to get stopped in our tracks as the service was clearly in very good form. However, that was how things went so there was nothing that could be done about it of course.
Since golf has resumed there have been four events on the PGA Tour, where they’ve landed a few places, most notably a very unlucky second at the Charles Schawb Challenge for Collin Morikawa at 45/1 who just missed out on the win when his 8-foot putt at the last hole slid by.
All in all though it’s been an excellent start to our trial, with a profit of 122 points made so far.
Today we are starting a new trial of a top golf tipster who has an established and impressive long-term record.
The tipster in question is the Golf Insider and they have been tipping since 2014, having made an incredible 1874 points profit since starting up.
That has been achieved with an excellent return on investment of 27%, which is very good going over such a long period.
They have landed some fantastic winners at massive prices, including:-
– Chris Kirk – WON at 125/1
– Rasmus Hojgaard – WON at 200/1
– Andrew Dodt – WON at 150/1
– Corey Conners – WON at 175/1
– Cameron Champ – WON at 150/1
– Hennie Otto – WON at 80/1
– Thomas Pieters – WON at 66/1
– Martin Kaymer – WON at 70/1
So as you can see some massive winners there.
As a special bonus feature, new members now receive exclusive extra betting advice for the four golf Majors (US Masters, PGA Championship, US Open and Open Championship).
These have done well, producing winners like Charley Hoffman at 90/1 in the first round leader market at the Masters and Erik Van Rooyen who was second at 125/1 in the Open at Carnoustie.
All in all then this looks like a top service and it should be an interesting trial. If it can reproduce previous results then it could certainly warrant entering our best golf tipster rankings.
As ever with golf services, the tricky part is having a big enough bank and being able to endure the inevitable losing runs, as when you are betting at odds of 100/1+ the drawdowns can be extensive, as we’ve experienced with some of the other golf services we’re reviewed.
The flip side of course is that when they land a winner at 150/1 or more it is a fantastic feeling and makes it all worthwhile.
So let’s hope we have more of the latter experiences than the former!
Anyway, we will aim to carry out a six month trial here to ensure enough time for a proper look at the service and to hopefully see out the short-term ups and downs.
We will update things here as the trial goes along so you can see how they are doing.
Predictology is a database of resources and statistics for football betting, allowing you to quickly and easily build your own profitable football betting systems or use those developed by the Predictology team.
We previously had a look at Predictology last year but they have made considerable improvements to it since then, including adding an AI prediction engine and doubling the number of leagues and markets covered so we thought we’d take another look at it.
There are a whole range of systems and strategies you can use with Predictology, but for the purposes of this review we just used the “System Predictions” from their Daily Digest e-mail to keep things simple and have something any member can follow.
These System Predictions are derived from various systems including lay the draw, laying home/away favourites, backing overs, league-specific strategies and more.
We are pleased to report that these selections performed very well during our three month trial netting 38 points profit at a return on investment of 11%.
That would be £1900 profit at £50 per selection, a very nice bit of extra income.
For some reason we came out with slightly different results to the official ones, which is unusual. We didn’t manage to figure out exactly why in the end. It may have been down to different settings and leagues used, but either way it didn’t make much difference as we ended up with 90% or more of the same selections and similar results to the official Predictology ones.
There were quite a large number of selections with over 350 during our trial, which is a good sample size.
The advised staking is a little unusual, with one point risked on the back/lay selections apart from the lay the draw selections which are just one point lay bets, so the risk can be quite a bit higher (depending on the odds).
Anyway, it all worked out well in the end with an impressive profit made so we are happy to award Predictology a PASSED rating after our three month trial.
Service Breakdown
Ease of use: There are quite a few bets with this service, particularly at weekends when there can be ten or more per day. You can use Betfair or the bookies to place the bets and of course you can develop your own systems using the software so there is great flexibility in how you can use the service.
Availability of prices: Most of the time the prices held up well and we didn’t experience any problems in matching the advised odds on the whole.
Strike rate: The strike rate during the trial was 52%. It’s always to good to see a higher than 50% strike rate meaning a nice steady stream of winners.
Advised Betting Bank: We used a 100 point bank for this trial, which we think should be more than comfortable given the strike and staking used.
Subscription costs: The subscription costs are reasonable at $1 for the first 7 days then $37 per month or $277 per year.
OVERALL VERDICT: PASSED
Predictology is a database of football statistics allowing you to build your own football betting systems or use those developed by the Predictology team. Following their “System Predictions” made an impressive 38 points profit during our trial.
That equates to over £1900 profit to £50 stakes so we are pleased to award Predictology a PASSED rating and it’s a platform we will be utilizing more going forward to aid our football betting.
Just a reminder that these results are from following the System Predictions in their Daily Digest e-mail.
We noted last time that our results differ from their official ones, with the official results having made 35 points compared to the 26 points we have proofed. We are not sure why this is the case – we think part of the reason is that we are following slightly different leagues (e.g. Japan J League), but even for the leagues we are both following we are getting slightly different matches and selections. Hopefully we can figure out why this is happening soon.
Anyway, either way the results have been positive which is the main thing.
It’s been a bit of a quiet start to our trial of football systems-builder Predictology, with a small loss of 2 points made so far from following their System Predictions in the Daily Digest e-mail.
Please note this is from risking 1 point liability on the lay selections, so the most you can lose is one point whatever the odds are.
Our results are also a little different to the official Predictology ones, we are not sure why but they are investigating at the moment. We have recorded the results as per the e-mails we received which seems the fairest way of doing things.
Anyway, a bit of a quiet start here as we say but hopefully things will pick up when the main leagues get underway shortly.
We ran a review of football systems-builder package Predictology last season and recorded the results for the three free systems that came with it on launch. Those just about broke even, with a loss of two points made during our trial.
Predictology is basically a database of resources and statistics that will show you how to supercharge your football betting, allowing you to quickly and easily build your own profitable football betting systems or use those developed by the Predictology team.
Our aim was to come back to Predictology this season and take another look at it, but we had limited time and then of course covid hit which rather put paid to our plans.
However, it has gone through some major enhancements during the break in the football and it is apparently getting a great reception from the membership. To name a few of the improvements:-
– New multi-layered server
– AI Prediction engine which assesses and highlights value in pretty much any match taking place globally
– More than doubled the number of leagues and competitions covered
– Again more than doubled the markets and variables that systems can be built around
– 5 profitable strategies included in all memberships
– Daily Digest email to members’ inbox every morning which includes:
– All of the predictions summarised in one place
– Key betting insights and trends for the day’s football
It’s been the last part that is really grabbing attention and since it was rolled out to members (late May) it is sitting at 42 points profit.
This is also what we will be concentrating on in our review as the results look very promising and it should make it more manageable in terms of workload.
Just to note as well that they are currently offering a $1 trial for 7 days for new members which is pretty decent and gives you a chance to check out the service first for a couple of weeks.
Anyway, we will kick off the re-review today and report back soon on how things are going.
Just a reminder that these results are for the three free systems that came with the initial relaunch of Predictology, although there are a number of other systems you can use or you can even build your own systems using the database.
Ideally we would have liked to wrap up our review at this point with the footy season having finished, but we don’t have quite enough bets to give a fair verdict on the system so will put the review into abeyance until the new season and pick things up again then.
Just a reminder that these results are for the three free systems that came with the initial relaunch of Predictology, although there are a number of other systems you can use or you can even build your own systems using the stats package.
Hopefully we will have more news to report by the time of our next update.
We have had to reset this review due to a bug in their system which was sending different selections out by e-mail to those generated by the system within the Predictology site.
So where as previously we were using the e-mail selections to proof results, it turns out those selections were not the correct ones, so now we have gone back to using the system to generate the selections.
On that basis, the three free systems provided at the launch of Predictologyare currently 1 point down.
The discrepancy hasn’t actually made much of a difference to the results and it was mainly System 3 – Winless which was affected.
For the purposes of the review we are just concentrating on the English Premier League, although you can use the systems on other leagues as well (specified for each system).
Anyway, let’s hope the problems are sorted now and we can settle down and get on with the review.
Predictology is a database of resources and statistics that allows you to build your own profitable football betting systems or use those developed by the Predictology team.
We have been following the free systems that were available with the re-launch of Predictology that happened about a month ago.
So far it has been a quiet start for these systems, with only 12 bets given out and a small loss of 2 points incurred so far.
Predictology is a long-running football systems builder package that has recently had a revamp and is now being relaunched. It comes from the same team behind the successfulFootball Advisorservice we have reviewed elsewhere on the site.
Predictology includes a database of resources and statistics that will show you how to supercharge your football betting, allowing you to quickly and easily build your own profitable football betting systems or use those developed by the Predictology team.
To celebrate the launch they are giving away three top systems completely FREE which have made a combined profit of over 300 points!
One of the systems even has an ROI of over 38%, which is pretty incredible stuff in the world of football betting.
In terms of the revamped Predictology package, here is what it now includes:
– The first and most comprehensive football betting strategy builder and analyser.
– 10 in-built and profitable strategies provided to all members
– 22 Leagues, 200,000+ matches and more than a 100 variables
– Custom built server allowing for strategies to be assessed in seconds
– Automated bet alerts to members inboxes
– Three custom rating models
– A value rating tool which produces profitable ‘value’ bets each week
– Custom built stats hub for easily assessing and finding profitable betting angles globally
– Launching soon – AI bet generator
– Launching soon – 47 more leagues and 100 more variables and betting markets
– Launching soon – iOS and Android App
So that all looks very impressive and given that the original Predictology system was held in high regard we are looking forward to testing this new one out with all the upgraded features.
After having taken a look at it we will report back with our views on it in a full review.
Trade On Sports (or TOS for short) is a trading platform and community that uses stats to generate both pre-match and in-play bets.
They cover a number of sports including football, tennis, cricket and US sports, but for the purposes of this review we concentrated on their football trading, whilst also monitoring their US sports bets.
Football Strategies
We ended up running a two-year review, which is one of the longest we have ever run here at Honest Betting Reviews. That gave us a chance to proof a huge number of bets (over 1500 in fact) and to monitor a number of their systems and strategies, which evolved quite a bit over the time we followed the service.
The bedrock of Trade On Sports is their stats database – known as the “Gamestate App.” This looks at inplay odds on Betfair based on goal times and current State (time/score) of the match, looking for value opportunities. In essence the app establishes what the chances of there being more goals in a game are based on past data. It then calculates what the odds should be and if there is value to be had.
Strategies are generated from this, either as alerts in their Telegram groups or for members to find themselves using the App.
The beauty of this is that you can place all your bets/trades on Betfair, so no bookies are needed. This is great news for those who have suffered bookie restrictions.
The main strategy we followed was the HT Overs Bot, which is one of the Telegram alerts and is a strategy looking for games likely to have goals in the second half. For this strategy you bet at HT that there will be one more goal (e.g. it is 1-0 then you back over 1.5 goals) at odds of 1.6, which are normally hit around the 70th minute.
The HT Overs Bot performed very well during our trial, notching up £5,120 profit to £100 stakes – or 51.2 points profit. Ironically though it actually suffered badly after the covid break and TOS no longer recommend following it, until crowds return at least.
In the meantime they have developed a number of new strategies, one of which is taking the opposite approach and backing unders at half-time. This is for two goals ahead, so for example if it is 1-1 at HT you back under 3.5 goals. That made 23 points profit during the six months we followed it, which is good stuff.
The Trade On Sports team have also introduced some new football strategies more recently which we will continue to proof, but so far look promising. The “two goals ahead” strategy in particular looks encouraging with over 45 points profit made so far from around 230 bets at a return on investment (ROI) of 20%.
All in all then if you combine these strategies then the profits really start to add up and we have to say this is one of the best in-play trading services we have come across. As mentioned earlier, members can also generate their own strategies and selections from the Gamestate App. So there is really a huge amount of value there waiting to be tapped into, it just depends how much time you have available to make use of it.
In addition there is now the option to automate the strategies via BF Bot Manager (which is an extra subscription cost on top, plus you will need a VPS unless you want your PC running all day and night) so if you’re really pressed for time you can just set those up and let them run in the background. It’s pretty impressive how far TOS has come since we started this review!
All of the Game State App strategies are available with TOS’s Silver Football membership, whilst the Gold also includes their pre-match trading app which we didn’t fully proof results of but looked pretty useful.
Ratings & Bets Membership
The other aspect of the service we took a look at was their ratings and bets in football and other sports, notably American sports.
These are just straight-up normal bets to be placed before the event rather than in-play bets/trades. They performed very well too, generating the following returns:-
So we think well worth adding those bets to your subscription, either separately or as part of the Platinum membership option.
Tennis Membership
Unfortunately we didn’t get to take a thorough look at the tennis membership or proof the bets/trades, but looking at the official results since they started shows a profit of around 85 points.
Service Breakdown
Ease of use: After you sign up you are able to log in to the TOS members section where you get access to the Gamestate Application and links to the Telegram channels where the alerts are posted. If you turn notifications on you will then get an alert to your phone or desktop when there is an in-play bet to place.
The pre-match bets are sent by e-mail and Telegram as well like normal tips.
Availability of prices: The only football strategy where we noticed any difficulty in getting the advised prices was the unders, which is understandable as on smaller leagues there isn’t great liquidity and lots of people wanting to get on unders will push its price down. So on those alerts we tended to get a tick or two lower on average than the advised price. As the other alerts are for backing overs, the price is moving out with time decay anyway so there was less of an issue.
With the HT Overs Bot you can set it to match at 1.6 or a price-point around that. We found that drip backing overs at 1.6, 1.75, 2.0, 3.0 and 4.5 worked very well as there are lots of games with late goals.
Strike rate: The strike rate for the HT Overs Bot was 67% which is pretty good as the implied chances of 1.6 are 62.5%, meaning they had an edge over the market.
Advised Betting Bank: We used a 40 point bank for the HT Overs Bot but a 50 point bank could be used if you wanted to be on the safe side. Either way though the banks would never have been in danger at any stage of our trial.
Subscription costs: The subscription costs vary depending on which package you wish to go for. The Football Silver package, which includes the in-play football strategies, costs £25 per month where as the Football Gold Package which includes pre-match modules costs £39.95 per month. The ratings and bets are £14.99 per month whilst the complete package containing everything (Platinum) is £44.95 per month.
OVERALL VERDICT: PASSED
Trade On Sports is an innovative betting and trading service covering a range of sports. For the purpose of this review we concentrated on their football strategies, but also monitored their bets for US Sports.
The main football HT Overs Bot made over £5,000 profit to £100 stakes which is impressive, although it is currently on hold for the moment pending the return of fans to football matches. They have a number of other promising strategies though including their Unders Bot which made 23 points profit for our trial.
The US Sports bets have also performed very well, generating in excess of 100 points profit in total.
We therefore have no hesitation in awarding Trade On Sports a PASSED rating. It is one of the best – and very few – services we have found that has demonstrated an ability to make a profit from in-play markets on Betfair and for that alone it is definitely worth adding to your portfolio.
Fortunately the HT Unders Bot (results available in the second tab of our spreadsheet) has been picking up the slack, adding 15 points profit since our last update and sitting 22 points up for our trial overall. So that would be £2,200 profit at £100 stakes.
It is worth noting with the Unders Bot however that it is normally tough to match the advised odds, even if clicking through to the market immediately after the alert is sent and usually you have to take 2-3 ticks lower than the quoted odds. Even taking that into account though it only makes a couple of points difference to the overall results so you would still be well ahead.
We mentioned last time getting the automation set up but unfortunately that has proved a little trickier than expected. Hopefully we will get this set up in time for our next update.
The HT Unders Bot has also struggled a little with 2 points lost since our last update but it is still 7 points up for our trial overall (results are in the second tab of the spreadsheet above).
The good news is that automation for TOS strategies is now available, so we are just in the process of setting that up. It involves an additional subscription to BF Bot Manager (although there is a free trial if you haven’t used it before) and you will need a VPS if you want it to operate 24/7 without having to leave your computer on all the time.
Anyway, we will report back more on how the automation works and how it is going in our next update.
A bit of a step backwards for the HT Unders Bot however which has lost 3 points since our last update but sits 9 points up for our trial overall (results are in the second tab of the spreadsheet above).
We are eagerly awaiting the automation option which should be available soon we understand.
We are also monitoring the new Lay Overs Bot, which involves laying the overs for two goals ahead at HT – e.g. if the score is 1-0 at HT, you lay over 2.5 goals (effectively you are backing the unders).
So far this system is 12 points up since starting up in late May. You can see the results in the second tab of our spreadsheet. The alerts are only for the 1-0 and 1-1 scorelines and ignore early goals.
It is often a challenge to get the advised prices for these alerts though as the odds normally move a few ticks instantly, so we will endeavour to record the prices we actually get rather than the advised prices to give a fair indication of achievable results.
Either way though this new Lay Overs Bot is looking promising and would be great to have another tool in the TOS amoury.
There have been no selections since 11th March with football having stopped obviously. There are reports of some European leagues planning restarts in May/June, which would be great if true but we will wait and see. The Premier League clubs would apparently lose £750m in revenue by not finishing the season so will obviously be doing everything they can to complete the season, presuming they can do so safely of course.
What joy and excitement there will be when football finally does return though, whenever that ends up being!
(Please note signing up to the Silver football membership will give you access to the HT Overs Bot, plus other features).
There are some very exciting developments going on aswell, with the Trade on Sports team looking at automating the Bot selections – and the tennis bets – via BF Bot Manager.
If that works it would be a great addition to the service in terms of both saving time and making sure you don’t miss any alerts, as they can come in at all times of day and night. They are aiming to have a live version available in early March so watch this space.
We mentioned last time about the pre-match trading alerts and those are now coming through. Basically they alert you to where the odds of a team may drift or come in a few ticks before kick-off. We haven’t been able to track these alerts unfortunately as a large number come in, again at all different times.
However, it is worth bearing in mind if you are going to follow them that you need a pretty big bank as trading £100 for each game for example would only give you a few quid profit per trade, so to make it worthwhile (or comparable to profits from the HT Overs Bot at least), you would probably need to stake around £1,000+ per game. And if there are a few alerts coming in at around the same time, then clearly you need a decent amount available in your Betfair account to cover them all.
If you are going to follow the pre-match trades, whatever you do make sure you don’t allow your bet to go in-play! The last thing you would want is to risk losing the whole stake for the sake of £10-£20 profit.
Anyway, good to see lots of new developments happening with Trade On Sports and things are looking very positive for the future.
As you may have seen, Trade On Sports scooped the award for Best (Other) Sports Service 2019 in our recent Members’ Choice Awards and the HT Overs Bot has been the bedrock of their success.
However, there are quite a few other elements to Trade On Sports’ service, including a pre-match trading tool which is about to start sending alerts for matches to trade (like the HT Bot), other football trading alerts, tennis trades and tips for US Sports. We haven’t been able to track the results for all of these as have been concentrating on the HT Overs Bot but we are sure these elements all offer value as well.
As we say the pre-match trading alerts are due to be introduced shortly so hopefully we will be able to include news on those in our next update.
The last couple of months have been very instructive as to the value of adopting a long-term mindset in betting. In October there was a drawdown of £760 at one point which was tough to take, particularly if you had just joined the service. There was a drop-off in memberships at that point as some people obviously could not handle the losing streak and gave up.
However, those who stuck around were richly rewarded as things got back to winning ways in November, with those losses more than recouped and more profits made so far in December.
The service has proved itself conclusively with over a year’s proofed results in our review comprising over 850 trades. Inevitably there will be occasional losing streaks as with any system but if you can adopt a long-term mindset and learn to handle the drawdowns the rewards have been tremendous.
One thing to ask yourself if you are getting really anxious and upset during a drawdown is whether you are staking too much money on each selection. A run of 5-10 losers in the course of a couple of weeks is possible – indeed likely – in just about any system and if you staking sensibly it should not bother you at all.
For our part we would recommend a 30-50 point bank if following the service, so for example if you have a £1,000 starting bank that would mean risking £33.33 per trade if operating on a 30-point basis.
As we say, with sensible staking like this a few losers now and then should be water off a duck’s back and not bother you at all.
Another possible approach would be to stake a fixed percentage of your bank on each selection, e.g. 2-3%. We haven’t crunched the numbers on this but expect you would now be sitting on an extremely tidy profit, well above the amount for level staking we have used for our review.
Anyway, just a few thoughts from us on how to approach things but the main point is that results have been excellent for this service and the odd drawdown now and then is to be expected and successful traders/gamblers don’t let it affect them.
As we say, it’s rare for the Bot to have a losing month so it’s come as a bit of a shock for members, but a reminder that having a large enough starting bank to withstand the losing runs and some patience is important when following any system.
They recommend a £5,000 bank if you are betting at £100 stakes so in that context if you joined at the start of October although you would be over £400 down that would still represent less than 10% of the bank which is a small amount in the grand scheme of things.
Anyway, let’s hope October was just a blip and they’ll be back to winning ways in November.
Yet another good month for Trade on Sports’ HT Overs Bot, with an additional 6 points profit (or £640 profit to £100 stakes) made since our last update.
That means they are now 55 points up for our trial overall (or £5,520 up using £100 flat stakes).
We have now been following the HT Overs Bot for a full year and the results have been excellent. We often say the holy grail of betting is consistency and the Bot has demonstrated remarkable consistency over the past year, steadily churning out the profits month after month. You can’t ask for much more really, with over five grand profit made from £100 stakes. It is one of the best footy betting/trading tools we have come across in some time.
Last time we mentioned the pre-match trading tool. We have followed a few of the live webinars with Pete which have been interesting, although there are a very low number of trades indicated from them – often just one or two, which isn’t really enough action in itself. Those with the time to use the tool themselves could find more trades of course, but it would be good if this could be turned into an alert service as well given that it works so well for the HT Overs Bot.
We will see what other things the team at Trade on Sports develop in the coming months, as it’s really a treasure trove of information and we feel the more of it they can automate for members the better.
Although the overall results were very good, it was actually a very up and down month with a run of seven consecutive losers early on in the month – the most the bot has had since starting up – followed by 12 straight winners. There was then another bad run over the weekend which just dragged the results down a bit unfortunately.
Overall though you have to say the results have been excellent with nearly £5,000 profit made since we started following the bot.
Some people have asked about the Quick Response bot but our analysis suggests it is not profitable to lay the draw with. It might be profitable to use it in the same way as the HT Overs Bot (i.e. backing another goal at 1.6), but there isn’t enough data on that to draw any conclusions yet.
We are also starting to investigating their pre-match trading tool which looks quite interesting so will report more on that in our next update.
These results are based on odds of 1.6 at 65 minutes, although the average seems to have been trending a little lower than that lately, but either way the results have been very good and solidly consistent throughout our trial.
With a high strike rate of 72%, this is proving to be a top system for betting on football in-play and long may it continue.
As mentioned last time, the odds of overs in a number of the games selected by the bot is quite low these days, often around 1.16 at HT, meaning by 65 mins (when entering the bet) the odds are often lower than 1.6.
So whilst we have been using average odds of 1.6 to record results, the actual average may be closer to 1.55, which would mean the total profit for the bot during our trial would be around 25 points. Either way though that is still a very nice amount of profit with such a high strike rate (around 70%) so you can’t complain.
Of the other bots they are testing, the HT 2 Ahead looks the most promising from what we can tell, with around 26 points profit made so far if backing two more goals at 61 minutes.
Trade On Sports have some live webinars planned soon to demonstrate some of their live trading and explain how some of the tools on their platform work, so those should be interesting.
We will report back on how they go, together with how the bots are doing, in our next update.
*We say “estimated” because essentially we are using a best guess of what the average odds of over 1.5 goals at 65 minutes are in the selected matches.
As alerts come in at all times of day and night it has not been possible to track the odds live, so we have had to do our best to estimate what that average odds would be.
Up until now we have assumed 1.6, but after tracking more of the odds live lately we believe the average may be closer to 1.55.
There are a number of Dutch matches and selections from high-scoring leagues where the odds are quite a bit below 1.6 at 65 minutes.
So if you took the average odds at 65 minutes to be 1.55 then the overall results would be 24 points up rather than 33.
That is still very good going whichever way you look at it though and with the high strike rate of around 70% this has been a very consistent and impressive performer.
Some people take a different approach and just request odds of 1.6 and then leave the bet to either be matched or not, which would mean some of the results recorded as winners on our spreadsheet would not have been matched – and conversely some recorded as voided would have been winners. Overall it would probably even itself out so we doubt the results would be very different doing it that way.
Anyway, they have also been testing some additional bots which have recorded some very promising results so we expect them to go live shortly.
Their bots operate in the Summer leagues as well so there are still alerts coming through, although of course not as many as during the main season as there are fewer fixtures.
The results on our spreadsheet are for backing the bot’s selections at 65 mins at average odds of 1.6, although there are other ways you could trade the selections (e.g. dripping them at 45, 60 and 75 mins). Some members have studied the different ways of following the bot and it appears the option we have recorded of backing at 65 mins is the most profitable.
There are also some other bots in beta mode which are showing a lot of promise, one which is over 50 points up and another two which are more than 20 points up each, so these are looking very good indeed.
Just to clarify that with the “bots” they have developed you still have to place the bets yourself, it is just that the bots are scanning the markets to find the opportunities.
Perhaps at some stage in the future they will have an auto-trade option, but for the time being you get the live alerts via the Telegram messenger app, which is straightforward to set up and follow, and then place the bets yourself.
All in all then we are really liking the look of Trade On Sports so far and think this is a very promising service.
*Correction – please note this previously stated the total profit was 25 points but there were a couple of errors in our spreadsheet that have now been corrected.
We have been taking a look at Trade On Sports for a while now and there is a lot to take in about the service.
They have a whole variety of features you can use, including:
– Stats Databases
– Chat Rooms
– Bets in a variety of sports including tennis, NHL, NBA and more
– Live in-play alerts for football
– Prematch to inplay stats
– And more besides
It can be a little overwhelming at first and difficult to know where to start.
However, the main feature at the moment in our opinion is their live “GameState Bot” which gives alerts at HT in football matches where it expects at least one more goal.
This has been operating since the start of October and has made substantial profit since starting up.
There are different ways you can follow the alerts, but it seems the most profitable is to put in a bet at the next goal up (so if it is 1-0 at HT, to back over 1.5 goals) at odds of 1.6, which on average gets matched at around the 65th minute if there are no goals up to that point.
Following this method has produced over 22 points profit (or £2200 to £100 flat stakes), which is pretty good going.
They have a number of other bots in live beta testing which are showing promise. One in particular involves betting that there will be at least one first half goal and has already amassed over 50 points profit.
There are also tennis bets sent out each day for players to lay and back and these are around 15 points up for the year so far.
Overall then we have been quite impressed with Trade On Sportsso far. The TOS Gamestate Bot has delivered very good profits so far and there is lots of potential in their other strategies under development.
It still feels a little like a work in progress rather than the finished article, but the service certainly seems to be going in the right direction.
Recently we have been spending more time looking at trading services rather than just tipsters and betting systems.
That’s because increasingly we are seeing that trading offers some advantages over traditional forms of betting.
Firstly, trading normally involves using the exchanges rather than the bookies, thus offering an attractive option for those who have had their bookie accounts restricted.
Secondly, with pre-event betting it can be difficult to find an edge with markets being so efficient these days. But once you go in-running, events can unfold in fast and unpredictable ways, offering the potential for the shrewd trader to find value by reacting quickly to how things are changing.
Thirdly – and in a related way – prices can fluctuate wildly in-running, meaning there is the potential to capitalise on these swings and make a decent profit from well-executed trades.
So with those advantages in mind we are looking at a relatively new but promising trading service called Trade On Sports.
The site is co-run by the respected Pete Nordsted, who some of you may know from his previous ventures including Premier Betting and numerous books on gambling he has published.
Together with some professional traders Pete has put together a range of resources for sports trading.
At the moment Trade on Sports covers 3 services:
• Trade on Tennis • Trade on Football • Ratings & Bets
You can join each service separately or you can join the Platinum service and receive everything. As a member you get access to a wealth of data and statistics via their apps, chat groups on Telegram and alerts for in-play trades on the relevant sports covered.
We have been following the service in a personal capacity for a while so decided it was about time we got a formal review going to record some of our findings and results.
Apparently they have some new software in the works for tennis trading so hopefully that will be available soon.
In the meantime though there is lots for us to get our teeth stuck into for the purposes of the review.
We will report back here soon with our initial findings on the trading services on offer and results achieved.
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Back Lucrative is a long-running horse racing service operated by a professional gambler called Michael Carr. We originally took a look at the service way back in 2015 and have kept an eye on it ever since. It had been closed to new members for quite a while but recently reopened, giving us a chance to run a new review.
Michael who runs the service is a well-known figure in the racing world having produced a number of informative guides and videos on gambling and how he has achieved his own success in the field.
Back Lucrative is a very successful service, having been running since 2013 and amassing over 1500 points profit in that time, including making a profit every year.
With such a strong reputation, you are always a bit worried the review will be a jinx and things will all go pear-shaped.
Well fortunately this time we weren’t a jinx on the service and it performed very well, netting 105 points profit at advised prices across its two strategies.
However, the two strategies – the Value Bets and Banker Bets – performed so differently during our review that we thought it would be useful in this instance to give the results separately.
So looking at them individually, the Value Bets made an excellent 180 points profit whilst the Banker Bets sadly lost 75 points (both at advised prices).
So really it was chalk and cheese between the two strategies.
Looking at the Value Bets first, these are one-point each-way bets looking for value (obviously!) in the market, usually at high odds. They still managed a good strike rate of 31% (including placed horses) even though they are focused on higher-odds selections. And of course with 180 points profit they performed superbly, almost doubling the recommended 200 point betting bank.
The return on investment was also good at 15%, so all in all we were highly impressed with Back Lucrative’s Value Bets.
The only negative we could see is that the Betfair SP results were a long way behind the advised prices and actually made a loss of 2 points in the end.
Such a big difference between the advised prices and BSP results is not something we see very often and may be down in part to the popularity of Back Lucrative, which as you can imagine with over 1500 points profit made in 7 years has a large and loyal following.
The bottom line is that if you want to follow the service you will need access to bookie accounts because you will struggle to make a profit using Betfair.
Turning to the Banker Bets, there isn’t too much that needs to be said really but a loss of 75 points is obviously disappointing and we’re not sure why there was such a discrepancy between the two strategies. The vast majority of the Banker bets are at odds of between 3.0 and 6.0, so perhaps Michael just struggles to find value at this lower odds band.
Either way we wouldn’t be surprised at all if members were betting solely on the Value Bets and if so we certainly wouldn’t blame them.
So how to sum up? Well overall we are definitely happy to award the service a PASSED rating. Even if you followed both strategies you still would have finished with over 100 points profits which is very good going. And if you had followed just the Value Bets then 180 points profit would have been made at advised prices.
So whichever way the tips are followed the results produced strong returns and given the long history of over seven years of profit this has to rank as one of the best horse racing services out there. We would recommend grabbing a place whilst the doors are still open.
Service Breakdown
Ease of use: The tips are accessed by logging into the Back Lucrative website and the selections are normally available by 10am UK time. With an average of just 3 bets per day per strategy it’s relatively straightforward to follow the service.
Availability of prices: Prices get hit quite considerably, which is not surprising given the popularity of the service but means you will need access to a good number of bookie accounts and to act quickly once tips are posted. As mentioned above, the Betfair SP results actually finished in deficit which helps to demonstrate the value being found early.
Strike rate: The strike rate for the trial was 31% (including placed horses) for the Value Bets and 21% for the Banker Bets, which is solid and certainly for the Value Bets is impressive given that it tends to go for horses at longer odds.
Advised Betting Bank: A 200 point bank is recommended for following each strategy, which seems more than sufficient to us.
Subscription costs: The subscription costs are £1 for the first 7 days then £37 per month or £297 per year. This covers both the Value Bets and Banker Bets, which are not available as separate subscriptions currently.
OVERALL VERDICT: PASSED
This was very much a “Tale of Two Strategies” for Back Lucrative, which is a horse racing service that has two separate betting strategies it employs. One of the strategies, the Value Bets, really hosed up by making 180 points profit whilst the other strategy, the Banker Bets, rather fell at the first, losing 75 points.
Overall though that’s still 105 points profit and given the consistency of the service over the years, which we first started following way back in 2015, it’s a definite PASSED rating from us.
Given the overall profits made over the years and during our trial, we consider this one of the premier horse racing services out there and deserving of its high reputation. Grab a place whilst you still can.
It’s been another good month for horse racing service Back Lucrative, with 44 points profit made at advised prices since our last update.
That means they are now 117 points up for our trial overall at advised prices.
It remains something of a mixed picture however, with their Value Bets 133 points up, while their Banker Bets are 16 points down. It has been a much better month for the Banker Bets however with a profit of 39 points made.
At Betfair SP the Value Bets are 22 points up whilst the Banker Bets are 18 points down, giving a total for our trial of +4 points. So it looks like this is a service where you need bookie accounts really to make it worthwhile.
Anyway, we’ll be looking to wrap up this review shortly and unless something dramatic happens it is heading for a clear passed rating.
At Betfair SP the Value Bets are 23 points up whilst the Banker Bets are 65 points down, giving a total for our trial of -42 points.
So at the moment it looks like this is a service you need bookmaker accounts for to get the most out of it. If you have bookie accounts then the results for the Value Bets have been strong and are living up to the pre-trial billing.
Horse racing service Back Lucrative has bounced back nicely following the covid break, making a profit of 105 points at advised prices since our last update back in April.
That means they are now 65 points up for our trial overall at advised prices.
It has been a mixed picture however, with their Value Bets actually being 129 points up, while their Banker Bets are 64 points down.
It’s been a tough start to our re-review of horse racing tipster Back Lucrative, with a loss of 40 points made at advised prices since our trial recommenced at the end of January.
It has been a mixed picture however, with their Value Bets actually being 18 points up, while their Banker Bets are 58 points down.
At Betfair SP the story is a little worse, with 62 points lost for our re-review so far (with the Value Bets 1 point up and the Banker Bets 63 points down).
Obviously with racing suspended there are no selections for the time being. The latest from UK racing is that the early season classics – 1,000 Guineas, 2,000 Guineas and Derby – have been postponed until further notice. There are still plans for Royal Ascot to go ahead, with the Queen’s course making plans to hold races behind closed doors but they are dependent on the government allowing it to go ahead, so at the moment it’s up in the air as to whether that happens.
Anyway, whenever racing does get going again let’s hope things pick up for Back Lucrative.
Today we are going to take another look at a service we originally reviewed way back in 2015 and that is horse racing tipster Back Lucrative.
In our original three month review it made a solid 27 points profit, resulting in a neutral rating.
However, since 2015 it has gone on and produced some excellent results and demonstrated a superb level of consistency, adding another 1,000 points profit at a long-term ROI of over 12%.
We often say here that longevity is the ultimate measure of a tipster’s quality and Back Lucrative have certainly demonstrated longevity in spades, having been running since 2013 and amassing over 1,600 points profit in total over that seven-year period.
The yearly totals since our original review have been as follows:-
2015: +376 points profit
2016: +402 points profit
2017: +57 points profit
2018: +120 points profit
2019: +247 points profit
So as you can see pretty awesome stuff, as also demonstrated in the graph below of compounding stakes (but only compounding up to a £50 maximum):
So the bank would be up to over £60,000 now since 2013 with a maximum risk of £50 stakes.
Now with such impressive long-term results, the service has proved very, very popular as you can probably imagine and they therefore often close the service to new members for long periods.
It has been closed to new members for some time now, but they are opening it up again for a brief window so we thought it would be a good time for us to have another look at the service given its stellar long-term record.
So we will be launching a formal re-review today and will update results here during our trial. Hopefully we will see the same kind of steady, consistent growth they have generated over the last seven years.
So we come to the end of our review of Back Lucrative, a horse racing tipster that promises to make you “up to £1179.50 every month.”
So did it deliver us £1179.50 every month?
Sadly not quite. It made 27 points profit at advised prices over three months and 9 points profit at Betfair SP (BSP), which isn’t bad going but at £10 per point equates to £90 per month.
The trial actually started off very promisingly with over 50 points profit in March, which made us think we might be on to something special here.
But sadly April only managed to break even and May saw a loss of 20 points.
So no disasters overall and any profit a service manages to make should be welcomed.
However, following the service does require quite a bit of work. There are a large number of tips and to back them all at advised prices takes quite a bit of time. You also have to log in to the site rather than having the tips e-mailed to you, which adds to the time required.
So overall perhaps this one is worth a try – after all it did make a profit – but having made only a 13% growth in the bank over three months means it doesn’t quite merit a place on our recommended list.
Service Breakdown
Ease of use: Quite time-consuming. First you have to log in to the site rather than having the tips e-mailed to you and then there are 5 tips per day on average, so backing them all at advised prices takes a while each day.
Availability of prices: Fairly good – there was an 18 point difference between advised prices and Betfair SP, so not a massive difference over the course of 480 bets and generally you should be able to get the advised prices or close to them.
Strike rate: The strike rate for the trial was 14% so there will be some long losing runs when using this service.
Advised Betting Bank: A 200 point betting bank is advised, which seems sensible and should be more than adequate to cover the drawdowns. According to historic results, they have only had four losing months in just under two years, with the worst month being around a 20 point loss.
Subscription costs: The subscription costs are fairly reasonable, at £7 for a 30 day trial, followed by £24.75 per month if you take the yearly subscription or £32 per month for the quarterly option.
OVERALL VERDICT: NEUTRAL
Overall this one warrants a neutral rating. It made a profit which is good, but with only a 13% bank growth and 5.6% ROI over the course of 3 months and with the time involved in following the service, we feel it does not quite merit a place in our portfolio at the moment.
That is not to say it is not worth trying, but for us to recommend a system it has to be of the very highest quality and deliver good profits consistently that could provide a valuable second income.
This service didn’t quite manage that during our trial. However, if it could reproduce previous results then the rating could be upgraded, so we will keep an eye on this and update things accordingly.
Phillip “Snowy” Griffiths as he is known is a former postie turned pro punter…and he’s been making a living backing horses for over 15 years. He has a number of nicknames but apparently Snowy is his favourite so that’s what he calls his tipping service.
Snowy backs solely in jumps racing in the UK and Ireland. These days there is jumps action pretty much all year round although the main season runs from October through April.
Snowy had a very impressive long-term record of over 1200 points profit made prior to our trial so we were eager to get a review going to see if he could repeat those results under live trial conditions.
Once you have signed up for the service, the selections are sent by email and come with incredibly detailed write-ups – some of the most detailed we have seen in all our time reviewing tipsters – so you can tell Phillip lives and breathes horses and spends a lot of time researching his tips.
We ended up running our review for 10 months to take account of covid and then the extended layoff for National Hunt racing which only got underway again in late June.
That gave us a really good chance to look at the service and included proofing over 300 bets.
So after all that time, what were the final results for Mr Snowy?
Well we are pleased to report they were excellent, with a profit of 174 points made at advised prices for our trial. That represented nearly a doubling of the betting bank, which is always a yardstick of excellence.
The total profit equated to a very respectable return on investment (ROI) of 13% and a decent strike rate of 29% (including placed horses).
It is worth noting that staking is quite high with this service though, with bets from 1 point up to 10 points and an average stake of around 4-5 points per bet.
The selections also made a profit at Betfair SP, but not quite as much as at advised prices, with 55 points profit made for our trial overall.
All in all then it’s been a very positive extended trial for “Snowy” and we are happy to award it a PASSED rating. Highly recommended.
Service Breakdown
Ease of use: The tips are normally sent by e-mail early in the morning around 9-10am (UK time) on the day of racing. With an average of just 1-2 bets per day it’s straightforward to follow the service.
Availability of prices: We didn’t notice a huge amount of pressure on prices during our trial but the advised price returns were more than treble those at BSP, so you probably need bookie accounts to get the most out of the service.
Strike rate: The strike rate for the trial was 29% (including placed horses) which is solid and we didn’t see any extended losing streaks during our trial.
Advised Betting Bank: We couldn’t see a recommended betting bank for the service but used a 200 point bank for our trial. If you wanted to be on the safe side you could opt for a 250 point bank however.
Subscription costs: The subscription costs are very reasonable given the impressive results at £1.99 for the first 28 days then £39/month or £87.74/quarter.
OVERALL VERDICT: PASSED
Snowy is a horse racing service focusing on jumps racing in the UK and Ireland. It made an impressive 174 points profit at advised prices during our extended 10 month trial.
With a solid ROI of 13% and a good strike rate of 29% we are happy to award the service a PASSED rating. The results reflect the incredibly in-depth knowledge Snowy has of jumps racing and it really comes through in his write-ups. Well worth checking out.
There was an extended break from tipping for horse racing tipster Snowy as he bets solely on jumps racing and that only got back underway again in late June whereas flat racing resumed at the start of June following the covid break.
In any event, there has been a small loss of 10 points at advised prices for Snowy since our last update.
With the excellent previous results however he is still 213 points up for our trial overall at advised prices.
There is something of a gap opening up with the Betfair SP results, with a loss of 32 points made since our last update and 115 points profit made for our trial overall.
So at the moment it’s looking like whilst it’s still profitable to follow the service at BSP, you would do quite a bit better using the bookies.
Anyway, let’s see if results pick up again now that there is more jumps racing for Snowy to go at.
It’s been a fairly steady period for horse racing tipster Snowy in recent times, with a small loss of 8 points at advised prices since our last update.
That means they are now 223 points up at advised prices for our trial overall.
It’s been a tough time lately at Betfair SP however, with a loss of 41 points made since our last update. That puts them 147 points up for our trial overall at BSP.
Obviously we are now in an extended hiatus in racing and we don’t know when the next meetings will be – the earliest possible would be 1st May. Let’s hope that’s what it turns out to be and we don’t end up with months and months without any action.
At Betfair SP it was a slightly worse month, with 84 points lost since our last update but still a profit of 188 points made for our trial to date at BSP.
Let’s hope the last month was just a hiccup and they can get back to amassing the profits this month.
The results at Betfair SP have tracked very well against the advised prices, with 186 points profit made since our last update and 272 points profit made for our trial overall.
As mentioned last time the staking is quite high so adjusted to 1 point stakes the totals would obviously be lower, but either way the results have been very impressive for Snowy so far.
That just leaves us to wish you a happy, healthy and prosperous New Year and we look forward to providing you with many more reviews in 2020 to help you beat the bookies.
It’s been an excellent start to our trial of horse racing tipster“Snowy,”with a profit of 88 points made so far after one month of following the selections.
Interestingly the Betfair SP results match the advised price results very closely so far, with 86 points profit made at BSP for our trial to date.
It’s worth noting that staking is quite high with this service, with most staking between 3 and 5 points, so at 1 point level stakes the totals would obviously be lower.
Anyway, good to see the positive start to our trial from Snowy.
Today we are starting a trial of a horse racing tipster known simply as “Snowy.”
Snowy is apparently a former postie turned pro punter…and he’s been making a living backing horses for over 15 years. This is his sole source of income and looking at his results it seems fair to say he’s stood the test of time.
Snowy only concentrates on jump racing. This is the code he prefers and although there is National Hunt (NH) action pretty much all year-round these days the ‘real’ jumping season has just got under way, with the main NH campaign running from around October through till April. Don’t worry though, Snowy still provides tips the rest of the year so there is no down period for his service.
Looking at the results, they appear to be very strong since going live in April 2016:
+1285.26 POINTS BANKED SINCE LAUNCH IN APRIL 2016 +221.61 POINTS BANKED SINCE 1st Oct 2019 (till 25th Oct 19) +455 POINTS BANKED DURING THE MAIN 2017/18 JUMPS SEASON +142 POINTS BANKED DURING THE MAIN 2018/19 JUMPS SEASON +219 POINTS DURING THE LAST THREE CHELTENHAM FESTIVALS (2017, 2018 & 2019)
And he’s just come off landing a 14/1 and 9/2 double on Thursday so is in red hot form at the moment.
There are 7-10 bets per week and tips are normally delivered by by 10.30 in the morning for the day’s racing.
All in all then this looks like a very promising service and we are looking forward to getting stuck into this one just as the jumps season kicks into gear.
We started receiving tips on 22nd October so will record results from then. We will update progress here regularly so ou can see how things are going.
It’s been over four years since we originally reviewed football trading service Goal Profits and they’ve added a whole host of new features since then so we thought it was high time for an update.
After having to take a break for coronavirus which disrupted our trial, we have been able to get back in the swing of things and complete our review.
So here we are with our thoughts on Goal Profits having taken a look at all the new features they’ve added since our original review back in 2016.
Goal Profits – Opening Thoughts
When we started the re-review process, we had wanted to produce some results for our trial, much like we do for the other reviews we do here at Honest Betting Reviews.
However, having looked at the platform and discussing it with the Goal Profits team, it became apparent that the tools and approaches available to members are so varied and wide-ranging that for us to give results would be pretty much meaningless, as they would be completely different to the results of any other member. Everyone will be using the platform to find different trades in different matches and leagues so a comparison wouldn’t be very meaningful.
And that really leads on to a more general point regarding what Goal Profits is all about – and what it is not.
In essence Goal Profits is a platform for people to learn how to trade football matches and to then provide them with the tools to find potential trades. It is an educational resource rather than a “tipping” platform in the traditional sense of churning out selections for you to copy.
You have to take the initiative and do some work yourself. Those who are prepared to do so clearly derive a great deal of benefit from the platform – hence all the awards Goal Profits has won, including our very own Best Football Service 2019 as voted for by our members.
If on the other hand you have limited time to learn how to trade and just want bets or trades sent to you, this probably isn’t the service for you. So it’s important to bear that in mind heading in, but now let’s take a look at the various features of the Goal Profits platform.
Goal Profits Members’ Area
After you have signed up to Goal Profits and logged in, you enter the Members’ Area which looks like this:
You have the latest news which covers any additions or changes to the platform, new leagues they may have added and upcoming games.
There is also an update on Chat Room Trades, telling you when professional traders Kevin and Steve will next be trading in the chat room. Finally there are e-mail addresses for you to request support, something Goal Profits is very strong on and are always on hand to offer help and assistance whatever your query.
Getting Started – Launchpad
OK so you’ve signed in and taken a look around. The next place to go to really get started is the Launchpad. This is a training guide where they go through all the essentials of how to trade, discuss the tools on the Goal Profits platform including the Live Stats Module, Custom Shortlist Pro, Team Stats and introduce you to their trading strategies.
It’s a good idea to take a good deal of time going through the Launchpad – whether you are a complete beginner or an experienced trader. Understanding exactly what’s on offer and how to use it is crucial to getting the most out of the service.
The Launchpad is broken up into the following sections:
1. Trading Basics
2. Trading for Beginners
3. Intermediate Trading
4. Advanced Trading
As you can see in the example of Trading Basics below, you simply click to get started and are then taken through everything step-by-step:
There’s quite a lot of info in here on trading mindset and discipline as well, which is a key part of becoming a successful trader and is well worth reading.
Next up is the nuts and bolts of the platform – the trading strategies. These are the foundation of everything really as they are how you make use of the vast stats databases and other info in the site.
The trading strategies are covered in the Launchpad section but are also explained in great depth in this section, with any potential trades for the day indicated by the software, a full strategy guide and then an example video at the end. What more could you ask for really!
There are currently 14 trading strategies included on the platform and without giving too much away most of them revolve around correct scores, trading certain parts of a game if given criteria are met, laying the draw in a particular half if conditions are right and so on. There are also some more advanced strategies involving tactics like going against the crowd and utilising the Asian handicap markets.
Here’s an example of what the CS3 strategy looks like on the platform:
Most of these strategies don’t involve having to sit in front of your PC for the whole game – in the main they are either strategies just for a specific part of a game or involve closing out a position once a certain score is hit. So you don’t have to worry that it will take up 90 minutes plus for each trade.
Team Stats
OK, so you’ve gone through all the manuals in Launchpad, learned the trading strategies and now you want to start trading.
Well the place to start is to look at the fantastic stats databases Goal Profits provide. They have made major additions and improvements to these databases as well as adding whole new ones since our original review in 2016 and these are a considerable improvement in our view. They now cover over 60 leagues worldwide.
First up you have the Team Stats database, which is the overall guide to the day’s fixtures and all the stats on them you could need.
So for example for today we have a fixture coming up between Inter Zaprešić and Dinamo Zagreb. Clicking on the game presents us with a whole host of stats, including:-
– Percentage of games for each team with over 0.5 goals, over 1.5 goals, over 2.5 goals etc
– Matches where the teams scored at least one goal
– Average goals scored and conceded per match
– Goals per half
– Matches ending with a target score of the strategy CS3 referred to above
– And much more
So from that you could easily start finding games you want to trade if they have stand-out stats that show a very strong trend on one of these parameters that isn’t reflected in the odds.
Following on from Team Stats is Custom Shortlist Pro. This is where you can filter matches by a range of different criteria and build your potential trades from there.
So for example you might want to know matches today where the home team has won the first half at least 50% of the time and the away team has failed to score in the first half more than 50% of the time.
You can enter these criteria and then the tool will find any matches that meet these specifications:
The great thing about it is you can add rows to create additional filters and sort by a whole range of different criteria. It really is a great way of narrowing down your potential trades for the day and saving a lot of time compared to sorting through all the stats manually.
There’s so much else in the stats section too, including:
– Compare Teams – pick any two teams and compare them as per the team stats section above
– Database – the overall numbers analysing over 200,000 matches to give average stats on scores, over/unders, home wins etc
– Form and trends – by last 5, 10 or 15 games
– Tim’s Shortlist – GP member Tim’s picks for the day according to his own shortlist filters
So it’s really a treasure trove of info and a real geek’s heaven!
This is one of our favourite features of Goal Profits and really sets it apart from most of the other footy offerings out there.
It shows you league tables based on a range of factors you can choose from and then shows you that table, with each team compared to their position in the actual league table.
So for example you might want to know how teams tend to do when going 1-0 up in games. Well you can sort the table by exactly that – here’s the Premier League for example:-
So as you can see from the table, Crystal Palace for example are 6 places above their normal league position in terms of their results when going 1-0 at home, where as Leicester are 4 places worse off and Chelsea 6.
This is great info for those in-running trades where you might want to take a contra position to the market if you think a team is a weak 1-0 leader in a game and will probably concede.
You can get league tables by criteria such as results vs bottom half, home attack v away defence, when level at HT and much more – amazing!
Most of what we have seen so far concerns looking at stats from completed matches to get a sense of how matches may go. But what stats from matches in-play?
Well Goal Profits have that covered as well!
They have a Live Stats Module which provides in-running stats on games including shots, corners, possession etc and even alerts when it’s a good time to enter a trade based on the stats.
This is similar to some other in-play trading scanners but to have it included as part of Goal Profits in addition to everything else you get is very impressive.
Finally on to perhaps the most important part of the platform in terms of where you can really learn – the Chat Room. This is where you can follow along with the professional traders Kevin and Steve. As mentioned above, they normally mention on the home page when they will next be trading so you can schedule when to be in the room.
Once in the chat room, they say which strategy they are following for a match and any moves they make during a game. Other members also chip in with comments and ideas and it’s also a chance to ask any questions you may have.
This is where you can see the trading strategies in action and how the pro traders trade them, so as we say it’s a great way to learn and improve your own skills along the way.
OVERALL VERDICT – PASSED
As you can see then the Goal Profits platform is incredibly comprehensive and we haven’t even covered everything here – there are also calculators, a forum, FAQs, Team Twitter lists and more! You would need to write a book really to do it justice.
Given all the improvements they have made since our original review and the vast offering that’s available to Goal Profits members, we have no hesitation in upgrading this to a PASSED rating. For anyone contemplating becoming a serious football trader, this is the place to start.
As stated at the outset of this review, this is a service for those who want to put in the time and effort and learn how to become a better trader. It provides you with the education, tools and guidance to do so, but how you use all of that is up to you. Those who put in the work and understand what is on offer clearly love the platform – hence all the awards Goal Profits has won. Its members really value everything they are provided with and derive great benefit from it.
The only thing we would like to see added is perhaps some alerts sent through Telegram (like Trade On Sports), for those who don’t have the time to study the platform, learn everything and follow matches in-running. That is just our own personal preference and others may argue that is not what Goal Profits is all about.
Either way though what you can’t argue with is the quality and depth of everything on offer from Goal Profits. It’s the most comprehensive football trading platform out there and has set the benchmark for others to follow.
It’s now nearly four years since we reviewed football trading service Goal Profits (see below) when we awarded it a neutral rating.
In that time the service has changed almost beyond recognition, with a whole host of new features and tools added. In addition they have also won numerous awards since our original review, including our very own “Best Football Service 2018” award voted for by you, our members!
So we thought it was only fair to the Goal Profits team that we had another look at the service and checked out all the new features they’ve added to see if we should reevaluate our original rating.
There is no doubt this is the most popular football trading service on the internet and the community seems to absolutely love the offering, so we are really looking forward to getting stuck in and testing it out.
Today then we are launching a “re-review” of Goal Profits and will report back soon on our findings. There is an awful lot to get through so it may take some time but hopefully it will be worth it and we’ll be able to provide some decent insights into what the service is all about and whether it can make you some profits.
We have completed our trial of the much-heralded Goal Profits, a suite of systems for trading football matches on the exchanges such as Betfair.
We have to confess to being slightly underwhelmed at the results after three months of testing.
Following the trades of Steve (who runs the service) exactly for 3 months has yielded just 12 points profit over the course of 63 matches traded.
So that would be nearly 100 hours of trading time to make 12 points profit, which at £10 per point doesn’t quite cover the subscription fees.
Now of course it wouldn’t quite have been 100 hours of trading because you would have been out of some matches before the 90-minute mark, but you get a good idea that lots of time needs to be invested here.
And for that amount of investment, we would like to have seen better results to make it worthwhile.
Here you can see the results for the trial in graph format – a good start followed by a long period of steady decline and then a big jump at the end.
What do you get with Goal Profits?
As we said previously in our results update, there are essentially three different types of trading system included in the Goal Profits package:
Lay the Draw strategies
“Matrix” systems
Correct score strategies
In total you are given 28 potential strategies to trade with Goal Profits.
There are some bold claims made on the Goal Profits website that people trade these systems full-time for a living.
That may very well be true, but for us there needs to be much clearer direction given before we are convinced that anyone who joins can make such profits – or even just good profits.
We would expect there to be very clear instructions given for live trades. For example, an e-mail sent out prior to kick-off saying:
“Lay HT Draw in Liverpool v Chelsea at 2.4 for 1 point”
Then another e-mail after a goal saying:
“Trade out of Liverpool v Chelsea HT Draw market for 0.6 pts profit.”
If they did this across say at least half a dozen systems and these averaged a decent profit of around 5-6 points profit per month each, then we would be more convinced that following their systems can deliver a solid profit each month.
But as is, you can follow Steve’s trades in the forum for the most part and some of Kevin’s, but not the kind of clear, testable service outlined above we would like to see.
So the subscriber is left to test all these other systems for themselves and see what they can achieve.
For us there wasn’t anything in their 28 systems that jumped out as having a clear edge. And some of them are available elsewhere on line for free.
The “Lay the draw” system is well covered for free on the internet and we have our own strategy laid out here.
Plus we detail the “lay the draw at half time” strategy in our Football Betting Secrets manual which is available here.
So for us, whilst this made a profit over the trial, it wasn’t enough to merit a recommended ratingand that is likely to remain the case for us unless they set up the kind of service we outlined above.
Service Breakdown
Ease of use: This is a heavy workload service to say the least. You will have to dedicate a considerable amount of time to firstly learning the systems and how they work and then to trading them.
Availability of prices: The prices Steve records for his systems are generally readily available. The correct score market is the main market you will trade following his methods and it has very good liquidity.
Strike rate: The strike rate for the trial was 33%, which is good and you shouldn’t have too many losing trades in a row here.
Advised Betting Bank: We used a 40 point bank for following Steve’s trades which we felt with a fairly good strike rate and 3.2 points risked per trade, would be comfortable and that proved the cae here. However, for each system that you trade you will need either a separate bank (recommended) or to increase the overall size of your bank if using one for all systems.
Subscription costs: The subscription costs are £37 + VAT per month, which are a little on the high side and there is no introductory offer for people to try for a period (e.g. 1 week or 14 days).
OVERALL VERDICT: NEUTRAL
Overall we can see that a lot of work has gone in to creating a suite of trading strategies here and the owners of the service, Steve and Kevin, are dedicated to their cause.
We would not deride any system that can turn a profit and Steve has managed to do that with his correct score trades, gaining 12 points over the course of our trial.
However, we feel that there is not enough here to give this a passed rating.
There are 28 systems provided, but excluding the correct score systems, we could not see that the other systems would guarantee a profit over the long term.
If there was a more systematic approach to providing live trading advice for those systems and they proved profitable, we could well be persuaded to change our view on this.
But until then, this goes into the neutral list for us.
It has taken a little longer than normal to get our first update done on Goal Profitsand we apologise for that if you have been waiting for it.
This one has been trickier to review than most systems we trial here at Honest Betting Reviews as there is an awful lot of information to take in – including a number of manuals to read, lots of videos to watch and about 30 potential systems to trade!
So that is probably the first thing to warn you about – if you do sign up to Goal Profits, be prepared to devote quite a lot of time getting to grips with it.
What is Goal Profits actually all about then?
Well Goal Profits is a set of systems for trading football matches on the exchanges such as Betfair. There are essentially three different types of trading system included:
Lay the Draw strategies
“Matrix” systems
Correct score strategies
In terms of the lay the draw strategies, these are widely available for free online – in fact we have done our own guide to lay the draw for your perusal here!
Looking at the Matrix systems, we had a look through each system but struggled to find anything that either wasn’t available for free elsewhere or had a clearly identifiable “edge” as such. Why would they make you money? That is the question we always ask with a trading system. There wasn’t an obvious answer for us when looking at those systems.
So that leaves us with the correct score strategies. These are probably the mainstay of Goal Profits and what the service is really about.
There are different methods for trading the correct score markets outlined, but basically they all centre on hitting certain “target scores” where you make a profit if a game finishes in certain scores like 2-3, 3-2, 3-1, 2-2, etc but a loss if it finishes 0-0, 1-0 or 0-1.
We have recorded the results for the main “Batman and Robin” trades that Steve, who runs the service, uses for his own trading.
After two months of trading and 50 matches traded, we are 4 points up overall.
Given the amount of time invested in having to be at the computer for the duration of those 50 matches, 4 points seems like quite a low return.
Plus, those are the official results if you have traded just like Steve and got exactly the same results as him. We have not managed to get as good results as these, but have been learning and are getting closer now.
It does take a bit of getting used to and knowing what you should do in each situation when a goal is scored.
So in summary the verdict so far is that the jury is still out on Goal Profits. We have struggled to make a profit after two months and a huge amount of time invested – and even following Steve’s trades exactly you would only be 4 points up.
We have a month to go in the trial so will be interesting to see how things turn out and if we can extract some more profit from this.
Today we are commencing a review ofGoal Profits,a popular football trading product that focuses mainly on the correct score markets on Betfair.
This is a sister product to Value Football Betting, a service we have reviewed and originally gave a passed rating to but downgraded to a neutral rating after a disappointing run of results.
There are some fairly bold claims made on the sales page of Goal Profits – such as that they can “turn beginners into full-time professionals” and that some of their members “now work part-time because their trading profits provide enough income.”
The guy who runs the service, Steve Brown, also claims that “my correct score trading strategies and exclusive Team Statistics software have changed the way football matches are researched and traded for profit.”
Well that is perhaps the boldest claim of all, because it is one thing to say people make a living out of trading systems and another thing to say you have changed way the market is traded, particularly with a massive worldwide website such as Betfair!
Their claims appear to be backed up by something though, as they have won a number of awards for being the best trading product in their field.
So we are intrigued to find out what all the fuss is about and whether they can live up to their bold claims. At the end of the day, when you strip away all the hype and layers of theory and padding, any system ultimately comes down to results.
A lot of trading systems we have come across rely on either unrealistic amounts needed to trade on markets without enough liquidity, are so ridiculously complicated that it would take a degree in trading to comprehend them, or rely on super-fast trading out.
Hopefully that won’t be the case here and trading strategies will be more sensible.
Anyway, the key question is can they produce consistent profits month-in month-out. Well our trial will endeavour to find out.
It’s been a while since we reviewed a greyhound service here at Honest Betting Reviews and in over five years we have only found one profitable one, Premier Greyhound Tips.
So it was good to get stuck into another promising greyhound service and we ran an extended seven month trial to get a really thorough look at Greyhound Maestro, from the Bet Hub tipster platform.
We are pleased to say that after our extensive review it produced an excellent 73 points profit at a return on investment of 17%.
The strike rate was a solid 29% so there were a decent proportion of winners and with just 1-2 bets per day it’s a very simple service to follow.
It was also very consistent and they were never in deficit at any stage of our trial as you can see below:
So pretty steady growth as demonstrated in the graph, which matches the longer-term picture prior to our trial of solid profit building over a long period of time.
And the really great news is that greyhound racing is still going during the coronavirus so you can follow the service right now! (Update 25th March– please note UK greyhound racing has been suspended for the time being. News of a planned recommencement date is awaited).
Overall then we are pleased to award Greyhound Maestro a PASSED rating after an impressive trial and it’s nice to finally have a second profitable greyhound service.
Service Breakdown
Ease of use: The tips are sent out via e-mail usually early in the morning but sometimes later in the day. With an average of just 1-2 bets per day it’s a very simple service to follow.
Availability of prices: We didn’t notice any real pressure on prices during our trial so you should be able to match the published results fairly closely.
Strike rate: The strike rate for the trial was 29% which is pretty solid and meant there was a steady stream of winners.
Advised Betting Bank: We couldn’t find a recommended bank for the service but would imagine a 100 point bank would be more than sufficient for following the service and that is what we used for this trial.
Subscription costs: The subscription costs are free for the first 14 days then £33 per month or £75 per quarter, which is pretty reasonable considering the consistency of the results.
OVERALL VERDICT: PASSED
In over five years of running Honest Betting Reviews we have only found one profitable greyhound service so it is really good to have finally found another one.
With an excellent profit of 73 points made with a strong return on investment of 17% and very steady and consistent profits throughout our trial, Greyhound Maestro gets a definite PASSED rating.
And the really good news is greyhound racing is still going on whilst just about every other sport is cancelled during the coronavirus, so you can join and get betting right now! (Update25th March– please note UK greyhound racing has been suspended for the time being. News of a planned recommencement date is awaited).
We’ve now been following this service for five months so next month we will be wrapping up the review. Hopefully we’ll see a big push towards the end and some nice profits to finish.
Tips are normally sent out early in the morning which gives a good deal of time to get the bets on and with an average of 1-2 bets per day it’s a very simple service to follow.
It would be good to find another profitable greyhound service as at the moment we only have one in the form of Premier Greyhound Tips from Betting Gods. Let’s see if they can keep up the good work.
With around two bets per day on average it’s quite an easy service to follow and so far the results have held up well too so things looking good for the Greyhound Maestro.
Tips are normally sent out between 10 and 11am (UK time) and come with detailed write-ups. From those write-ups you can see they really know their stuff when it comes to the dogs.
So far that knowledge is paying off nicely, let’s hope it continues.
It’s been a while since we reviewed a greyhound service here at Honest Betting Reviews. That is mainly because there haven’t been any good ones to look at for quite some time.
However, one worthy of attention has finally landed on our desk so we thought let’s give it a whirl.
The service in question is called Greyhound Maestro and it comes from the Bethub tipster platform.
The dogs are an often overlooked gambling medium living under the shadow of their mightier cousin horse racing, but that lack of attention means there can be profitable angles to exploit and that seems to the case here.
According to Bethub, the Maestro lives and breathes Dog Racing and can often be found giving his expert opinions on the couch on live TV meetings.
The Maestro was previously part of a well known tipping service platform and remains one of their top performing tipsters of all time.
Certainly his record published on the Bethub website would appear to back that up, with 323 points profit made since January 2018 at a return on investment of 25%.
The strike rate is also good at over 32% and they have shown admirable consistency with 14 out of 18 months having been profitable to date.
So this looks very promising and we are looking forward to getting a trial underway.
We will aim to run a standard three month trial and will report back here on how they are getting on.
The future is here. Technology has progressed so far from the early days of gambling on the internet that we now have something that would have been unthinkable just a few years ago.
Yes, step up the Each Way Sniper Auto Software and what is undoubtedly a huge breakthrough in the world of online betting. A piece of software that can simultaneously scan 17 different bookies, find the value and place a bet on your account without you having to lift a finger.
We have recently finished a two month trial of the software and have been completely blown away by both what the software can do and perhaps more importantly, the results. With over £1600 profit made from just £5 each-way stakes and literally no work at all after the software has been set up, it’s been a pretty spectacular trial.
Whilst all of that is amazing there are some small catches with the system, but we will look at those below and how you can mitigate them as much as possible.
First up let’s take a look at how the software works.
How It Works
The software is based on the original Each Way Sniper system which came out a few years ago. You can read more about it in our review of it, but in a nutshell it is based on spotting value in the place part of an each-way bet on the horses.
It does not use form reading or anything like that, it is purely based on the fact that in certain situations the bookies offer you better odds on the place part of your each-way bet than they should. This is purely a function of how they have to offer each-way bets – e.g. a quarter the odds for the top four places etc.
So if you are getting at least decent odds on the win part, then placing these each-way bets is a sure-fire way to profit in the long run.
What the original each-way sniper system did is scan the markets to compare the Betfair odds with the bookies’ odds and find instances where there was value on the place part of the bet. Then you would have to place the bet yourself. This meant spending a good deal of time in front of the software waiting for possible bets to appear and then spending the time placing them yourself, which for people who work full-time for example was not very practical.
What this new auto-software does however is all the same things as the original service in terms of scanning the market, but it then places the bets automatically for you. It can do this all day and night if you wish, as long as your computer is on and the software is running.
You can choose the staking you want it to use for each bookie and which bookies you would like the software to place bets at. Currently there are 17 bookies available with the software:
– Bet 365
– William Hill
– Ladbrokes
– Coral
– Skybet
– Betfair Sportsbook
– Paddy Power
– 888 Sport
– Bet Victor
– Betfred
– Sportingbet
– 10bet
– Bwin
– Bet Hard
– Totesport
– Unibet
– Pokerstars
So hopefully you will have access to at least a few of these bookmakers.
Let’s now take a look at the software in action.
The Auto Software in Action
OK so let’s see what it actually looks like in practice. First up you have the settings panel in which you can choose staking, which bookies to bet with, the maximum and minimum odds you want to bet at, how many bets to place per day and so on.
How to set this up is all explained in videos once you sign up and is pretty straightforward. It should only take around half an hour or so and you only need to do it once, although of course you can adjust the settings at any time if you wish.
Now let’s take a look at the part of the software that scans the markets to find value bets. This is in essence the same as the original Each Way Sniper software:
There isn’t anything extra you need to do here – the settings are carried over from the main settings panel above. This just lets you see what is happening in the background as the software searches for potential bets.
Next up you can see all the bookies and the software actually placing the bets on your accounts, which is pretty cool. Here is Skybet for example:
On the top panel you can select from the various bookies available and see which ones you are logged into.
Finally you have the betting log which records all the results and helpfully highlights the winners in green and losses in red:
Below the main results log it also records where it wasn’t possible to place a bet and the reason for it.
So that’s the auto software in a nutshell.
Results
Now onto the really exciting bit – our results. Amazingly we made over £1600 profit in just two months and to only £5 each-way stakes. That was achieved with a 40% ROI(!) and a 28% strike rate (including placed horses).
All on auto-pilot – we didn’t even have to place the bets!
You can see from the graph below just how smooth and steady the progress was:
As you can see, a pretty fantastic profit graph there!
Obviously those results are fairly incredible and are somewhat above the average you would expect to achieve over the long run using the software.
However, at the same time we would stress that because every single bet placed with the software has value built into it, over the course of a large sample of bets (e.g. 500 or 1,000) you are extremely likely to make a profit. In fact it is as close to guaranteed profit as you can possibly get. Pretty awesome eh?
What to Watch Out For
All that may seem too good to be true and of course, there is a catch. That catch is the bookies really don’t like these sort of bets so there is probably only a limited time you can place them before your accounts become limited.
During our two month trial our triallist (Dan) lost his Coral account and was limited to £1 bets at Betfred. So there are risks involved and you should be aware heading in that you could suffer restrictions.
At the same time however, we know there are people on the EWS Facebook group who are still quite happily doing these bets a year or two later, having been restricted to £1 e/w bets and are still able to make a couple of hundred quid a month from doing it for very little risk. So even if you do suffer some restrictions, it is not necessarily the end of the world.
The way we look at it is that there are probably some bookie accounts you never use anyway and so wouldn’t mind losing. For example we never use the likes of Bwin, 10bet and Bethard so it’s no big loss if they get restricted. Even some of the more mainstream accounts like Paddy Power and William Hill we don’t use very much so were quite happy to use them for EWS.
And of course you may ask yourself if you are making a profit with these accounts in the first place. If not, then having a system that actually makes a profit – even for a limited time – is better than continuing to lose money with these bookies.
Either way, ultimately it is up to you if you want to risk having some accounts restricted or closed. Just beware the risk is there and don’t be shocked if it does happen. Hopefully you will have amassed a nice healthy bounty from the bookies before it happens.
The other thing to mention is that it’s definitely an advantage to have an account with Bet 365 if you are going to use the software as a good proportion of the bets we had were with them.
OVERALL RATING: PASSED
The Each Way Sniper Auto Software is one of the most impressive pieces of kit we have come across in the world of betting in many years – perhaps ever! Mike Cruickshank has always been at the forefront of innovation when it comes to betting software and he really has outdone himself this time.
We were blown away by both the quality of the software and the results. With over £1,600 profit made in just under two months at an ROI of 40% this undoubtedly deserves a PASSED rating.
Yes there is a caveat in terms of the risk of bookie restrictions, but ultimately we think this can be managed. If you stick to sensible staking and don’t mind having a few accounts possibly restricted then this is a great way to make yourself some substantial extra income – with very low risk.
We understand Mike will be limiting memberships in order to ensure there aren’t too many people placing bets at the same time, so we would advise grabbing a place whilst you can.
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Racing Odds is a horse racing tipster run by a guy called Paul Towers and it has been operating for a full year now. The service has a very nice website and had some positive results coming into our trial, with 147 points profit apparently made.
For the early part of our trial, things moved along very nicely with a profit made in each of the first four months.
Sadly in August that spell was broken however with a small loss made and then in September they had a tough month, with a loss of 42 points made to advised prices (with BOG applied).
Overall though even with a rough couple of months at the end of our trial they still finished with a decent profit of 36 points to advised prices (with BOG applied).
Without BOG applied, they made a loss of 2 points to advised prices.
However, at Betfair SP they made a healthy 55 points profit which is good to see – and also very rare to find a service doing considerably better at BSP than at advised prices.
Here is the profit graph for the trial at BSP:
As you can see it was pretty steady growth until a dip at the end but still a healthy profit made overall.
Based on the BSP results then we are happy to award Racing Odds a PASSED rating as it is a notable achievement to make a profit betting purely on Betfair and without needing bookies accounts.
Service Breakdown
Ease of use: The tips are normally sent out the morning of racing at around 10am UK time. With just 1-2 tips per day it’s a very straightforward service to follow.
Availability of prices: This was an interesting one as stated above in that the BSP results actually beat the advised prices, even with BOG applied, so it looks like you are better off using Betfair and not even worrying about the availability of prices at the bookmakers.
Strike rate: The strike rate for the trial was 23% which is pretty solid, although there were still some losing runs of 20+ bets, so patience is required – as ever.
Advised Betting Bank: We couldn’t find any bank recommended for following the service but with the strike rate and staking we think a 100 point bank should be sufficient and that is what we used for this trial.
Subscription costs: The subscription costs are a little on the high side at £49.99/month so we think this would only be suitable for people able to stake at a sufficient level to make it worthwhile (e.g. at least £10-£20 per point).
OVERALL VERDICT: PASSED
Racing Odds is a nice, simple service to follow and it achieved the rare feat of being profitable at BSP and having better results on Betfair than at the bookies.
Whilst at one stage it looked like the trial was going to finish with a much higher total before having a disappointing last couple of months, a decent profit of 55 points was still made at BSP and we therefore consider the service is worthy of a PASSED rating.
We will keep an eye on things to see how it progresses over coming months and if it can get back to the kind of consistency shown earlier this year.
Without BOG applied they are 2 points up for our trial at advised prices.
The good news though is that the BSP results are still beating the advised prices, with 53 points lost since our last update but 65 points profit made for our trial overall.
Hopefully this month is just a blip as nine of their previous eleven months have been profitable which is an impressive level of consistency. So let’s see if they can get back to winning ways by the time of our next update.
Without BOG applied they are 56 points up for our trial at advised prices.
The Betfair SP results continue to outshine the advised prices however, with another 6 points profit added since our last update and 118 points profit made for our trial overall.
It’s great to see the BSP results continuing to perform so well and let’s hope that continues over the long run as it would be very valuable to have a service that is profitable on Betfair as well as at the bookies.
It’s been another excellent month for Racing Odds, which is fast becoming one of the best racing services we have reviewed for quite a while.
With another 32 points profit made at advised prices (with BOG applied) since our last update a month ago, they are now 83 points up at advised prices (with BOG) for our trial overall.
Without BOG applied they are 46 points up for our trial at advised prices.
Amazingly though the Betfair SP results continue to perform the strongest, with another 34 points profit added since our last update and 112 points profit made for our trial overall.
What we really like about this service is its consistency, with every month of our trial having been profitable so far and nine out of ten months for the service in total.
At advised prices without BOG, the results would actually be about 32 points lower, so it shows you what the value of BOG can be.
However, the service is actually doing best at Betfair SP, with 39 points profit made since our last update and 78 points profit made for our trial overall.
It is very rare to see the BSP results doing so much better than the advised prices so worth keeping an eye on going forward.
It’s worth noting that the official results at advised prices are based on best odds guaranteed (BOG) and would actually be about 10 points lower without BOG.
At Betfair SP though the results are actually better, with a profit of 39 points made since our last update and 15 points profit made for our trial overall.
We were recently contacted about a new horse racing tipster called Racing Odds, which has a rather smart looking website and some promising results to back it up.
The service is run by a guy called Paul Towers and he says his strategy is based on his “experience over the years from following horse racing. I look at various factors when reviewing the selections for the day and only picks ones I am confident about and do not pick for the sake of having a selection, as some days there may be no selections.”
He has been running his strategy since October 2018 and in that time has amassed some impressive-looking results, with 147 points profit made since starting up.
That has been achieved with a decent strike rate of 34% and a very commendable ROI of 42%. Five of the six completed months so far have been profitable, with the one losing month only dropping 2 points.
It is a selective approach with only around one bet per day, so should be a fairly simple service to follow.
All in all then this looks like an interesting service and we look forward to seeing how it gets on during our review.
We started receiving tips last Friday 29th March, so will record results from then. Results will be updated here periodically during the review.
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