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Over Under Pro – Final Review

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Here are the final results from our trial of Over Under Pro:

Profit/loss: -11 points
Strike rate: 59%
Bank Growth: -22%
Cost: £9.99 per month
ROI: -8%
Average number of tips:  1.5 per day
VERDICT: FAILED 

 

You can view full results here

 N.B. – Over Under Pro closed its doors on 2nd June 2015 and is no longer available. 

Over Under Pro Final Review

We have come to the end of our three month trial of Over Under Pro from the Betting Gods stable and unfortunately it has not quite delivered the results we were hoping for.

The over/under 2.5 goals market is a popular one on football, often attracting large volumes of bets and second only to the match odds as the most popular of markets on Betfair. 

Basically the market is based on how many goals there will be in a match – so if there are 3 goals or more it is over 2.5 goals and 2 goals or less then it is under 2.5 goals. Very simple and only two possible outcomes.

Statistically in football there are also approximately 2.5 goals per match, so it gives a nice even point to bet around. 

It is a difficult market to get right in the long term though and I don’t know of many services or tipsters that have shown a long term profit on it.

Developing an edge that is not covered by the market has proved difficult for punters and professional gamblers alike. 

This has been the case here and an 11 point loss over the trial backs up how hard it is to make a profit on this market.

Whilst some games seem obvious contenders to be over 2.5 goals – like for example Dutch matches which are notoriously high scoring – this seems to be priced into the market. There don’t appear to be many “hidden” opportunities where there is good value to be obtained.

Sadly this tipster wasn’t quite able to enough value in its selections to turn a profit anyway.

Ease of use: Very good – bets are sent by e-mail in the morning and can be placed at Betfair or with the bookies.

Availability of prices: Good. As mentioned above, there is very good liquidity in these markets so there was little problem in obtaining the advised prices.

Strike rate: A good strike rate during our trial at 59%, but with average odds of 1.59, unfortunately that was not enough to turn a profit.

Advised Betting Bank: A 50 point betting bank is advised, which is more than ample to cover losing runs with such a high strike rate. Even with the disappointing results of this trial, we still only ended up losing 22% of our bank, so the bank was never in danger.

Subscription costs: Very reasonable at £9.99 per month

OVERALL VERDICT: FAILED  

Sadly this one has to go into the failed category with an 11 point loss over the course of the trial. It is a tough market to make a profit from and they weren’t able to find enough value in their selections to make this a success.

Dark Horses – Final Review

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Did it light our way to profits?

You can get Dark Horses here.

Profit/loss: 2 points
Strike rate: 19%
Bank growth: 4%
Cost: £30 per month
Average number of tips: 10 per week
ROI: 1.4%
VERDICT: NEUTRAL 

 

You can view full results here

 

Dark Horses Final Review

The third and final of our trials of Tony Gibson’s betting systems, Dark Horses is a simple betting system selecting just one or two horses per day to back.

The service claimed profits of over 300 points coming into our trial, but unfortunately as with our two other reviews of Tony’s services – the Value Seeker and Tim Russell’s Private Service – it has failed to live up to previous results during our trial.

A profit of two points was made at advised prices, whilst backing at Betfair SP (BSP) resulted in a 9 point loss.

So nothing too bad, but not something to get excited about either I’m afraid.

Ease of use: OK – you have to log in to a forum to find the selections rather than receiving them by e-mail. Tips are available by around 10 am daily (UK time) and bets are simply backed at Best Odds Guaranteed (BOG) bookmakers each morning after selections are given out. There are a maximum of 2 bets per day so shouldn’t take long to place the bets.

Availability of prices: Fairly good – prices were generally available for long enough to enable you to place bets. There was a difference of around 10 points between results at advised prices and BSP, which isn’t too bad. 

Strike rate: The strike rate during our review was 19%, which means there will be some drawdowns along the way using this service.

Advised Betting Bank: A 50 point betting bank is advised, which was never in danger of being lost during the trial and seems reasonable.

Subscription costs: The subscription costs are very reasonable at £30 per month, which includes not just the Dark Horses betting tips but a suite of other systems and tips from Tony Gibson’s www.bettingsystem.info website.

OVERALL VERDICT: NEUTRAL  

As the service just made a small profit of 2 points during our trial, it doesn’t seem to quite warrant inclusion in our passed systems, and it seems fairer to put it in our neutral category for now.

I had been hoping for better things from our reviews of Tony Gibson’s systems but that is betting for you – don’t rely on anything!

Perhaps things will pick up for these systems – we will keep an eye on them and report back in due course.

The Value Seeker Final Review

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Did it find the value?

You can get the Value Seeker here

Profit/loss: 0.26 points
Strike rate: 14%
Bank growth: 0.1%
Cost: £30 per month
ROI: 0.1%
Average number of tips: 2 per day
VERDICT NEUTRAL 

 

You can view full results here

 

The Value Seeker Final Review

Coming into this review the Value Seeker had notched up one of the most impressive points totals I have come across. Indeed, they asked the question themselves “Is this the greatest proofing period ever?”

With over 1200 points profit in 18 months, it was not a ridiculous claim to make. So how did it get on during our trial?

Well things got off to a rip-roaring start and I was suitably excited when just two days in, the service landed a 65/1 winner in the form of Lough Derg Walk. 

However, sadly that profit has been steadily eroded over the subsequent three months and we end up back where we started at break even point.

So no real damage done, but nothing to write home about either.

The provider of the selections Tony Gibson has clearly spent a good deal of time coming up the system and this is evidenced in his book of the same name, The Value Seeker, which is an interesting read.

Essentially it is a system for selecting unexposed horses from some of the top trainers, but I can’t really say more than that without giving too much away.

Ease of use: OK – you have to log in to a forum to find the selections rather than having them e-mailed to you. Tips are available by around 10 am daily (UK time) and it is advised to use Betfair SP, which makes things easy. There are on average about 2 bets per day so using Betfair only it shouldn’t take long to place the bets.

Availability of prices: Very good – as above, you are advised to use Betfair SP so no problem in getting the bets on and you know you can match the advertised results. 

Strike rate: The strike rate for the trial was just 14%, so patience and a good size betting bank are required.

Advised Betting Bank: A 200 point betting bank is advised, which seems more than adequate to deal with the losing runs.

Subscription costs: The subscription costs are very reasonable at £30 per month, which includes not just the Value Seeker selections but a suite of other systems and tips from Tony Gibson’s www.bettingsystem.info website.

OVERALL VERDICT: NEUTRAL  

As the service broke even over the course of the trial, the only fair verdict seems to be a placing in our neutral category.

Given the previous results and the fact that this has a well-researched and carefully thought out system behind it, we will continue to monitor results and see if there is an improvement.

 

Tim Russell Private Service Final Review

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You can get Tim Russell’s Private Service here

Profit/loss: -11 points
Strike rate: 32%
Bank growth: -55%
Cost: £30 per month
ROI: -15%
Average number of tips per week: 6 per week
OVERALL VERDICT: FAILED 

 

You can view full results here

 

Tim Russell Private Service Final Review

I was heading into this trial with high hopes given that it was £18,000 in profit (or 180 points) over the previous 18 months. It also had a high strike rate so I saw this as a service that could grow a bank quite quickly.

However, sadly that has not proved the case this time and it has been a disappointing trial. We have ended up 11 points down at advised prices and over 17 points at Betfair SP (BSP).

Considering the advised bank is 20 points, we have lost over half of it at advised prices and nearly the whole thing at BSP!

The thing that I found intriguing during this trial though was that selections were consistently backed in, sometimes significantly. This suggests that the information Tim gets is genuine and/or he is able to identify selections that will be backed.

So perhaps there are trading opportunities here, for example to back selections when they are given out and lay them later.

That is not what is advised though and I didn’t investigate it during our trial. We can only the judge the service on what is has achieved during our trial and unfortunately it has not lived up to expectations.

Ease of use: OK – you have to log in to a forum to find the selections rather than having them e-mailed to you. Selections are available at 10.15 am daily (UK time) and it is advised to use a Best Odds Guaranteed (BOG) bookmaker. There are on average about 6 bets per week so it shouldn’t take long to place the bets.

Availability of prices: Bad. Prices often disappear quickly so you need to login at 10.15 am sharp (or even a little earlier) and place your bets quickly. You are warned about this before joining the service though so it is a case of “buyer beware!”

Strike rate: The strike rate during the trial was 32% which is ok but below previous standards which are more towards 40% plus.

Advised Betting Bank: This was my major gripe with the service – a 20 point bank was advised, which is clearly not enough given that we lost over half of that at advised prices and nearly all of it at BSP! I would think at least a 40 point bank should be advised.

Subscription costs: The subscription costs are very reasonable at £30 per month, which includes not just Tim’s tips but a suite of other systems and tips from Tony Gibson’s www.bettingsystem.info website.

OVERALL VERDICT: FAILED  

Unfortunately this service hasn’t lived up to expectations during our trial and with over half the bank lost it has to go into the failed category

I am still at least a little bit intrigued by the fact that selections are consistently backed in though so will continue to keep an eye on this to see if results improve.

 

 

All Weather Ultimate Final Review

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You can get All Weather Ultimate here

Profit/loss -64 points
Strike rate 18%
Bank growth -32%
Cost £53.96 for first 90 days then £11.96 every 28 days
ROI -30%
Average number of tips per day 1
VERDICT FAILED 

 

You can view full results here

 

All Weather Ultimate Final Review

Well we have come to the end of our three month trial of All Weather Ultimate and unfortunately it has ended in a 64 point loss.

The danger with systems like this – trainer and jockey combinations at certain courses – is that they can look great based on past statistics. However, unless those statistics are based on a large enough sample size and arise from sound logic as to why such a combination should have an advantage, then they are unlikely to continue to perform well.

My own personal view is that most of the time it is just coincidence – statistical variability will inevitably mean some jockeys and trainers have great records at one course and bad ones at another. Perhaps they have had a couple of 50/1 winners at one course that make their results look great. But is that likely to continue? And if so, why? 

These are the sorts of questions you need to ask when considering betting strategies such as this.

Ease of use: Very good – bets are given out early in the morning (UK time) and can be placed either with the bookies or exchanges. There is on average 1 bet per day so very quick to place the bets.

Availability of prices: Good – there wasn’t any problem getting the bets on nor any big difference in results by using Betfair.

Strike rate: The strike rate for the trial was 18% so patience will be required to deal with losing runs. 

Advised Betting Bank: A 200 point betting bank is advised, which seemed adequate, with average stakes of just over 2 points per bet. Even with the disappointing results of the trial, we were still nowhere near losing the bank – being just over 30% down overall. 

Subscription costs: The subscription costs are reasonable at (a rather unusual!) £53.96 for first 90 days then £11.96 every 28 days after that. 

OVERALL VERDICT: FAILED  

This service claimed very good results coming into our trial at over 600 points profit bad sadly has failed to deliver those kinds of results here and with over 60 points loss this one has to go into the failed category unfortunately.

 

Nap Investor

Nap Investor – Final Review

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N.B. – Please note this service is no longer available.

 

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Bank nearly doubled during our trial!

You can get Nap Investor here

Profit/loss: +116 points*
Strike rate: 23%
Bank growth: 46%
Cost: £50 per month or £99 per quarter (+VAT)
ROI: 14%
Average number of tips: 1.9 per day
VERDICT: PASSED  

 

You can view full results here

*116 points profit at Betfair SP, 197 points profit at advised prices. 

 

Nap Investor Final Review

Well it’s been a huge turnaround in our trial of Nap Investor since our results update about a month ago. At that stage the service was treading water somewhat, just hovering around break even at advised prices.

Then they started banging in winners left, right and centre and have ended up very nearly doubling the bank at advised prices! And nearly 50% bank growth at Betfair SP.

There have been some very tastily priced winners in the last month, including Deuce Again at 12/1, Moonlightnavigator at 10/1 and Flaming Thistle at 10/1.

A number of other winners have been recorded as well, meaning we finish the trial just shy of 200 points in profit at advised prices and 116 points profit at Betfair SP. 

Here are the profit/loss figures at advised prices in graph format:

Statistics

 

Service Breakdown

Ease of use: Very good – bets are given out early in the morning (UK time) and it is advised to use a Best Odds Guaranteed (BOG) bookmaker. There are on average about 2 bets per day so it doesn’t take long to place the bets.

Availability of prices: Average. There is quite a big difference in the returns at advised prices and Betfair SP, so you are strongly advised to take bookmaker prices as soon as bets come out. Sometimes this is tricky and selections can be backed in quickly. But a good profit was still made at Betfair SP so not to worry too much if you have to use Betfair.

Strike rate: The strike rate is quite low at 23%, so you have to be prepared to endure some losing runs, but there were enough good priced winners to compensate for that. The longest losing run during the trial was 15 bets.

Advised Betting Bank: A 200 point betting bank is advised, which given that the average bet is 5 points, I do wonder if is a little on the low side. I would think a 250 – 300 point bank would be safer. I used a 250 point bank for the trial.

Subscription costs: The subscription costs aren’t too bad for a service of this quality if you go for the quarterly option at £99 per quarter (+VAT) rather than the £57 per month. 

OVERALL VERDICT: PASSED  

Overall this has been a very good trial and I have been impressed with the results the Nap Investor has produced. To nearly double the bank in three months at advised prices and nearly 50% growth at BSP is a great performance and this service is a welcome addition to our passed systems list.

You can get Nap Investor here.

Win Form Pro – Final Review

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Over £65,000 in profit – did they continue to win like a pro…?

You can get Win Form Pro here

Here are the final results from our three month trial of Win Form Pro:

 

Profit/loss: +56 pts
Strike rate: 53%
Bank growth: 56%
Cost: £39.50 per month or £89.50 per quarter
ROI: 42%
Average number of tips: 4 tips per week
VERDICT: PASSED  

 

You can view full results here.

 

Win Form Pro Final Review

This is a service from the reputable Pro Betting Club that boasted an amazing 21 consecutive months of profit coming into the start of our trial.

To £100 stakes they claim a very impressive £65,000 profit over the previous 21 months. Even to just £10 stakes that’s £6,500 profit. And with a strike rate of 57%, it would be an understatement to say I was intrigued by the potential of this service.

So how did they get on during our 3 month trial?

Well I am very pleased to say that the great run continued, notching up a further three consecutive months of profit and 55 points using their advised staking.

Here are the results during the trial in graph format:

Win Form Pro Profit Graph

As you can see, very steady profit all the way through – almost a perfect graph!

Their advised staking is a form of loss recovery which can get quite aggressive at times (i.e. up to 10 points if you have four losers in a row), so it is also worth considering how you would have done using level staking.

Well, I am pleased to report that 1 point level stakes would still have returned a tidy 17 points profit over the trial period, so if you have used flat £100 stakes that would be over £1,700 profit with a very high strike rate and no real drawdown. 

Looking at the results historically shows that backing at 1 point level stakes has worked well over the lifetime of the service as well. I think a 10% compounding approach could work very well for this service.

Ease of use: Potential selections are found by logging in to a secure website before 12.30pm each day – that’s the easy bit.

The slightly tricky bit is that the potential selections only become a bet if the odds are below 3.00 at Betfair SP (BSP).

I have to say in all my years of betting I have never come across a service that says you should bet only if selections are below a certain price rather than above it. But it obviously works, so who am I to question it?!

This means you either have to monitor the prices live as the race approaches and back them if the price is below 3.00, or alternatively use a bot. They recommend the Bet Engine, which I used during the trial and found reasonably straightforward to use. Instructions are provided on the Win Form Pro page of the Pro Betting Club website.

Availability of prices: Excellent. Bets are advised at Betfair SP (BSP) so you know you can match their results.

Strike rate: The strike rate is excellent at 57% overall and was around this level during my trial, at 53%.

Advised Betting Bank: A 100 point bank is advised, which is a good thing because the staking system is a loss recovery – i.e. 2-2-4-6-10. I however prefer level stakes so used 1 point level stakes and used a 20 point bank. I considered that should be sufficient given the longest losing run is 5 bets.

Subscription costs: The subscription costs are £39.50 per month or £89.50 per quarter, which I feel is very reasonable for a service that has produced results as consistently as this one. Certainly there are many out there that a charge a lot more and deliver a lot less!

OVERALL VERDICT: PASSED 

Well this service gets a resounding thumbs up – it provides just what I am looking for from a service: fantastic consistency, a high strike rate and prices that are available. Using a compounding strategy you have the potential to really grow a bank with this one.

I have no hesitation in adding this to the approved services list.

I will be continuing to follow Win Form Pro and will update results periodically.

You can get Win Form Pro here.

Global Soccer Goals – Final Review

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Here are the final results of our three month trial of Global Soccer Goals:

 

Profit/loss: -51 pts
Strike rate: 48%
Bank growth: -15%
Cost: £69.97
ROI: -14%
Average number of bets:  4 per day
VERDICT: FAILED 

 

You can view full results here.

 

Full Review

We’ve come to the end of our three month trial of Global Soccer Goals and unfortunately the trial has ended in a 50 point loss.

The system is based on backing set selections if a match satisfies certain criteria. It can be used across all leagues around the world and during the Summer.

I chose to use it on the seven main European leagues of England, Spain, France, Italy, Germany, Holland and Portugal. If you had used different or additional leagues then obviously you would have achieved different results to me.

I am always sceptical that a blanket approach like this can work across any league and team. Essentially the system is saying that the bookies are systematically pricing certain types of matches wrongly, day in, day out across all leagues around the world. Surely if that was the case then the market would just adjust?

I could see a system like this potentially working if you focused on certain terms who have a particular way of playing, although even then I would wonder if the market has that covered as well.

But certainly such a broad approach as this doesn’t seem to take account of the fact that a team like Barcelona, for instance, plays a very different way from a team like Juventus and therefore has different kinds of results.

I would need to see a good few seasons worth of statistics to convince me that the bookies were systematically pricing up these kinds of matches wrongly. Unless that is produced and on the basis of the trial’s results, I remain sceptical that this system can work long-term.

Ease of use: Usually takes around 5 minutes a day for find selections and another few minutes to place the bets.

Availability of prices: Good, prices are widely available and Betfair can also be used to place the bets.

Strike rate: The strike rate for the trial was 48%, which is a bit below the 56% stated in the system ebook.

Advised Betting Bank: A 50 point bank per league is advised, which should be more than ample to cover losing runs. I operated the system across 7 leagues so had a 350 point bank, which was never in danger of being lost.

Cost: The system is available for a one-off payment of £69.97.

OVERALL VERDICT: FAILED 

Unfortunately Global Soccer Goals has failed to live up to expectations during our trial and with a 51 point loss has to go into the failed category. 

You can get Global Soccer Goals here

 

Morning Value Service – Final Review

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£125,000 profit in 3 years for this expert horse racing service.

You can get the Morning Value Service here

 

Here are the results for our 8 month review of the Morning Value Service:

Profit/loss: +330 points
Strike rate: 17%
Bank growth: 45%*
Cost: £320 per quarter, £560 for 6 months or £960 per year
ROI: 8%
Average number of tips: 19 per day
VERDICT: PASSED  

 

You can view full results here

*bank growth has been calculated on a 3 month pro-rata basis to make it comparable to our standard reviews

 

Morning Value Service Full Review

There are those people out there who like to study the form, look at all the races and pick out their one best bet for the day.

The Morning Value Service takes a different approach – this is a high volume service that churns out between 15 and 25 bets a day.

Despite the name, they don’t just tip in the morning, but also send out a later update if there is evening racing as well 🙂

Basically the service is split into 4 types of bets:

  • The main selections for the morning
  • “Of interest” selections for the morning (these are a small number of more speculative long- odds bets)
  • The main evening bets
  • “Of interest” evening selections.

You can subscribe to the morning bets (including of interest bets), the evening selections, or both.

The morning bets are sent out at 10.30am and the evening bets around 4.30pm – 5pm. You are given an advised price for each selection. All bets are at 1 point level stakes.

The long term record of the service is superb, with 2600 points profit to 1 point level stakes over a period of three and a half years. That would be over £125,000 to £50 level stakes and £26,000 to just £10 stakes!

I have been a member of the service since July 2014 and results since then have been impressive.

Here are the results for the Morning bets in graph format:

Graph

Nice, steady bank growth and they have never been in deficit since I joined.

And here are the evening bet results:

Graph

Also very solid, steady bank growth over the period of the review. 

 

Service Breakdown

Ease of use: Good – I use Betfair to place bets and it takes me about 10 mins each day to place the bets. If you wanted to use bookies it would take considerably longer, I would guess perhaps 30 minutes or so. But you can still get good prices using Betfair – see below.

Availability of prices: Very good. Often when a service as good as this comes along, it almost becomes a victim of its own success and prices crash as soon as bets are sent out.

I have followed the selections at Betfair SP (BSP) however and have actually managed to slightly improve upon the advised prices. This really is good news for those of us that have already had our bookie accounts closed.

Strike rate: The strike rate is typically around 15-20% so it will encounter the odd drawdown along the way.

Advised Betting Bank: 250 points, which seems more than adequate to cover the losing runs at the above strike rate.

Subscription costs: High: £320 per quarter, £560 for 6 months or £960 for the year. This is for all the bets – morning and evening.

OVERALL VERDICT: PASSED  

Although subscription costs are high, this has to be taken in the context of the overall record of the service, which is obviously excellent at over 2,500 points profit in 3 and a half years.

Although I have only been with this service for just over 6 months, I understand it has been proofed elsewhere before that so have no reason to question the long term results.

Kieran, who runs the service, seems like a very honest and decent guy and is always on hand to answer questions.

I would think you would need a minimum betting bank of £2500 to make it worthwhile to follow this service and make up for the high subscription costs.

If you can do, it is highly recommended and offers the possibility of making very good returns for less than 10 minutes work a day.

Can’t say fairer than that really can we!

This one definitely goes on to our passed systems list.

You can sign up for the Morning Value Service here.

Football Bankbuilder – New Review

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We will now be reviewing Football Bankbuilder, a football betting system from Matt Fisher. 

The sales page claims you could turn £1,000 into over £30,000 in 36 months using the system and compounding the bank.

The system recommends using extremely aggressive fibonacci  style loss-recovery staking, which I have to say I am not a particularly big fan of. I will record results using both their recommended staking and level staking so we can see how well the system performs under both approaches.

Selections are pretty easy to find using Betfair and should only take a few minutes each day to obtain.

We will run the usual three month trial for this one and see if we can build our bank in the way they claim!

More details of Football Bankbuilder are here