We have come to the end of our trial of Draw Day Demolition and here are the final results:

 

Profit/loss:	-9.59 points*
Strike Rate:	71%
Bank Growth:	-48%
Cost:	£19.99/month, £44.99/quarter or £79.99/six months
ROI:	-7%
Average number of tips:	1.3 per day
VERDICT:	FAILED
Rating:

 

*Results based on the double chance. Results for backing the draw only were -8.27 points.

You can view full results here.

 

Draw Day Demolition Full Review

 

Well it has been a disappointing trial for Draw Day Demolition, who have ended up 9.59 points down backing the double chance bets and -8.27 points backing the draw. 

Here are the results in graph format:

 

 

As you can see, a fairly steady decline through the trial.

The service offers you the choice of which method you want to back the selections with, but the main point is that the home side is not expected to win. So you can lay the home side, back the double chance (draw and away), back the draw no bet or back the draw.

We recorded two of the above options – the double chance, which covers most possibilities and would produce similar results to laying the home side or draw no bet – and then the draw, because that is quite a different approach, to see if it worked better.

Unfortunately, neither of the options proved particularly effective and we were left slightly scratching our heads as to the broad array of choices offered.

The question you are left with is whether the tipster is offering so many choices so that if one of them happens to work but all the others lose, they can point to the one that worked and say “hey look, that is the one you should have used.”

There wasn’t direct evidence of that here, but we still think it would be better for the service to select one approach and say this is the one to use, rather than having subscribers choose and potentially getting different results, which could be frustrating for people.

Anyway, leaving aside the issues of which betting method should be used, the results for the double chance were disappointing and represented a 48% reduction in the bank over the trial. And that was using quite a conservative bank of 20 points.

If we had used the 10% staking approach they advised, we would have lost an even greater percentage of the bank.

We are always concerned when a service tips at very short odds – the average odds here were 1.3 and you have to be very good to make long-term profit at those odds. So far the only service we have encountered that has managed to do it is Banker Bets, who have a very skilled and detailed approach to finding value at odds-on.

The other thing that concerned us about this service was the wide variety of leagues used – everything from Venezuala to Singapore, taking in the Russian third division and the Kazakhstan league along the way!

It is very difficult to become an expert in a number of leagues, but certainly extremely difficult to become an expert in such a huge number of world leagues, unless you are using software. We weren’t clear if they were using software, but the results didn’t bear out the efficacy of the software if they were.

 

Service Breakdown

Ease of use: Good – the selections are generally sent out the day before the matches, with a link to an odds comparison site where you see the best odds from the bookies, so it doesn’t take too long to place the bets. Be warned though, with such a wide variety of leagues used, you will need a large number of bookmaker accounts.

Availability of prices: Good – even with the obscure leagues, there are always bookies offering a price (a sign of the times!) which means you shouldn’t have too many problems matching the prices. 

Strike rate: The strike rate for the trial was 71%, which is high, but when backing at 1.3 would need to be higher to secure a long term profit.

Advised Betting Bank: An approach of using 10% of the bank on each selection was advised, which we considered was not quite sufficient so used a notional 20 point bank.

Subscription costs: Fairly standard at £19.99/month, £44.99/quarter or £79.99/six months

 

OVERALL VERDICT: FAILED 

A loss of nearly half the bank when using a 20 point bank or even more when using the advised 10% approach was disappointing and on that basis alone we feel we have to give this a failed rating.

The choice of backing approaches plus the wide range of leagues used from all over the world raised additional concerns for us. 

So we still have only one recommended football service in the form of Banker Bets. Our search for others continues…

 

 

 

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Results Update

12th October 2015

There hasn’t been much movement for Draw Day Demolition, which remains in about the same place it was when we last updated it three weeks ago.

It has improved by about one point on the double chance bets and half a point on the draw bets.

Here are the totals for the trial as a whole:

Double Chance: -7.47 points

Draw: -2.2 points

You can view full results here.

We have about three weeks left in the trial, so let’s see if they can pick up a bit towards the end and at least finish in profit.

 

 

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Results Update

24th September 2015

It’s been a tough time for Draw Day Demolition since our last update, with significant losses incurred on both the double chance and draw bets. 

They have dropped 9 points on the double chance bets since our last update and 16 points on the draw bets. 

That means the totals for the trial are:

Double Chance: -8.54

Draw: -2.72 points

You can view full results here.

We are just over half way through now, so hopefully things can turn around for them before the end of the trial. 

Back soon with more updates.

 

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Results Update

6th September 2015

It’s been a solid week for Draw Day Demolition, adding 2.37 points profit for the double chance bets and 1.3 points for the draw bets.

That brings the totals so far to:

Double Chance: -0.2 points

Draw: +13.08 points

You can view full results here.

As we have said before, it seems the draw bets offer more value and so far have been performing considerably better than the double chance bets. We will see if that continues for the remainder of the trial.

 

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Draw Day Demolition – Results Update

28th August 2015

It’s been a bit of a tougher week for Draw Day Demolition, with -0.81 points since our last update for the double chance and -2.55 points on the week for the draw.

In total that means:

Double Chance: -2.57 points

Draw: +11.78 points

You can view full results here.

So things still nicely in profit for backing the draw but the double chance is slightly down.

We will be back soon with further updates. Enjoy your weekend! 

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Draw Day Demolition – Results Update

18th August 2015

We are just over two weeks into our trial of the intriguingly-named Draw Day Demolition.

We are not quite sure what they are trying to demolish – days when there are lots of draws? A particular day they dislike? We dislike Mondays on the whole, so maybe they could demolish Mondays for us. 

Anyway, how have things been going thus far?

Well, they advise a number of possibilities for backing their selections. The essence of their system is that they pick games where they think the home side will not win. 

So that leaves you with a range of options – backing the draw no bet option, backing the double chance (away and draw), hedging the draw and away win or simply backing the draw or away win.

Phew! That sounds complicated, but actually when it comes down to it you can just choose one option and then stick with it.

For the purposes of this trial, we will record results of both the double chance bets and the draw, as those are the choices used for the website results and seem the most straightforward.

So the results for these two options have been:

Double Chance: -1.76 points

Draw: +14.33 points

You can view full results here.

So quite a difference there between the double chance and the draw results.

We are not that surprised that the double chance bets are showing a loss, as they are typically at very low odds (around the 1.3 mark) and it is tough to make a profit tipping at those odds (although one of our recommended services, Banker Bets, manages it) 

The draw odds are showing promise though so we will see over the coming two and a half months whether they can keep this up – and of course if they can turn things around for the double chance bets.

In the meantime you can check out Draw Demolition here.

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Draw Day Demolition – New Review

29th July 2015

With the start of the football season just days away, it is the perfect time to start a review of a football tipster.

We are on a quest to try and find a profitable football tipster for you to go with Value Football Betting and Banker Bets.

And we think we may have uncovered something of a gem with the slightly oddly-named Draw Day Demolition.

They concentrate solely on the draw-no bet-market in football matches, focusing on matches that are highly likely to end in an away win or a draw.

According to their website, they like to keep things simple and claim that by studying historical odds and trends in matches, they have devised a winning formula to profit from football.

Average odds apparently range from 1.4 to 1.6, which means we should be looking at a high strike rate of winners with this service.

There are between 5 and 15 selections per week, so we are not talking about too high a workload in terms of placing the bets by the sound of things.

The results published on the website look promising, albeit over a fairly short period. From 1st April this year they say they have made over £1800 to £100 stakes, or 18 points profit to 1 point level stakes in other words.

There are a very wide range of leagues used for the selections. Indeed, some of the teams we don’t even recognise and we are self-confessed football nuts! 🙂

So we will have to keep an eye on things like odds availability and liquidity for this one.

Fortunately they are offering a 7 day free trial to kick things off (excuse the pun) here but we will as always run the trial for at least 3 months to judge the service. 

Let’s hope this one finds the back of the net and in three months’ time we are celebrating another winning football tipster.

In the meantime, you can check out Draw Day Demolition here

Here are the final results from our trial of Over Under Pro:

Profit/loss:	-11 points
Strike rate:	59%
Bank Growth:	-22%
Cost:	£9.99 per month
ROI:	-8%
Average number of tips:	1.5 per day
VERDICT:	FAILED

 

You can view full results here

 N.B. – Over Under Pro closed its doors on 2nd June 2015 and is no longer available. 

Over Under Pro Final Review

We have come to the end of our three month trial of Over Under Pro from the Betting Gods stable and unfortunately it has not quite delivered the results we were hoping for.

The over/under 2.5 goals market is a popular one on football, often attracting large volumes of bets and second only to the match odds as the most popular of markets on Betfair. 

Basically the market is based on how many goals there will be in a match – so if there are 3 goals or more it is over 2.5 goals and 2 goals or less then it is under 2.5 goals. Very simple and only two possible outcomes.

Statistically in football there are also approximately 2.5 goals per match, so it gives a nice even point to bet around. 

It is a difficult market to get right in the long term though and I don’t know of many services or tipsters that have shown a long term profit on it.

Developing an edge that is not covered by the market has proved difficult for punters and professional gamblers alike. 

This has been the case here and an 11 point loss over the trial backs up how hard it is to make a profit on this market.

Whilst some games seem obvious contenders to be over 2.5 goals – like for example Dutch matches which are notoriously high scoring – this seems to be priced into the market. There don’t appear to be many “hidden” opportunities where there is good value to be obtained.

Sadly this tipster wasn’t quite able to enough value in its selections to turn a profit anyway.

Ease of use: Very good – bets are sent by e-mail in the morning and can be placed at Betfair or with the bookies.

Availability of prices: Good. As mentioned above, there is very good liquidity in these markets so there was little problem in obtaining the advised prices.

Strike rate: A good strike rate during our trial at 59%, but with average odds of 1.59, unfortunately that was not enough to turn a profit.

Advised Betting Bank: A 50 point betting bank is advised, which is more than ample to cover losing runs with such a high strike rate. Even with the disappointing results of this trial, we still only ended up losing 22% of our bank, so the bank was never in danger.

Subscription costs: Very reasonable at £9.99 per month

OVERALL VERDICT: FAILED  

Sadly this one has to go into the failed category with an 11 point loss over the course of the trial. It is a tough market to make a profit from and they weren’t able to find enough value in their selections to make this a success.