Donkey Lays is a service from the Pro Betting Club stable of tipsters and lays horses to lose in the win and place markets on Betfair.
Horses are only a selection if the odds are below 4.0 in the place market on Betfair at the off – if they are below 4.0, then you lay them in the win and place market. It’s a case or both or neither.
Whilst the cut-off of 4.0 does limit the liabilities somewhat, it can still allow horses to be laid in the win market at quite high odds, so a decent sized bank is required if following this service.
We have been running Honest Betting Reviews for over six years now and have found very few good laying services in that time, with notable exceptions like Little Acorns.
So when we came across Donkey Lays which had some promising results coming into our trial, we had a mixture of scepticism and hope.
Scepticism because we have seen many promising laying services in the past that only turned out to be disappointing in the end, but hope that this time might be different…
It is strange in a way that there aren’t more good laying services out there, as in theory it should be possible to make a profit from it in the same way as you can from backing.
In any event, we ran a three month trial of Donkey Lays and in that time there was a good sample size of 428 lay bets.
As we say, some of the lays can be at quite high odds on the win part of the bet and in fact the trial started off with an unsuccessful lay at odds of 18.0, thus dropping 17 points on the very first bet. Not a great start!
Whilst that did not appear to auger well, it was actually the highest unsuccessful lay of the trial and things did improve considerably from there.
In fact we are pleased to report that the trial finished with a profit of 37 points, which is very commendable when you consider it was at one-point level stakes laying.
As you can see from the graph below, after a tough start they recovered nicely over the rest of the trial:
The only real issue we had was that – as mentioned in our review updates below – there were quite a large number of discrepancies between our results and the official Pro Betting Club ones (via the proofed-tipsters website).
This was a continual problem throughout our trial and we never really received an adequate explanation from the Pro Betting Club about it. They just said it was “A system error on the proofed tipsters page,” which didn’t really clarify things for us.
However, in terms of overall results, ours were actually somewhat better than the official ones (+37 points vs +21 points), so we don’t think it was a case of them trying to embellish the results or anything like that. It was just that for some reason the results didn’t appear to be reported accurately at their end.
That does give us cause for concern as any serious tipping platform or tipster site should be fastidious about the accurate reporting of their results. At the same time though, we don’t think it is fair to criticize Donkey Lays itself for that as the service made a healthy profit during our review.
So we are happy to award the service itself a PASSED rating as one of the very few laying services to have completed a successful review with us over the years, but with a proviso that we hope the Pro Betting Club can ensure the accurate reporting of results going forward.
Service Breakdown
Ease of use: You have to log in to the site each morning to find the bets as they are not provided by e-mail. Generally we prefer it when tips are sent by e-mail as it is easier for members and means you are less likely to miss or forget about the tips, but we can understand some services opt for a log-in option as it is less likely for tips to be shared.
In any event, there are an average of 4-5 tips per day and if you are placing them manually you will need to check the place odds close to the off to ensure they are under 4.0. There is a bot you can set up (at extra cost) to place the bets though if you are not around to monitor the races during the day (which we imagine most people won’t be).
Availability of prices: As Betfair SP is used for recording purposes, there are no issues with obtaining prices.
Strike rate: The strike rate for the trial was 77%, which is a very good level and meant lots of winning bets throughout the trial.
Advised Betting Bank: We couldn’t find a specific betting bank recommended for this service, but used a 100 point betting bank for the purposes of this review.
Subscription costs: The subscription costs at the time of writing are £39.50 per month or £89.50 per quarter.
OVERALL VERDICT: PASSED
In over six years of operating this site we have found very few good laying services, so we are pleased to report that horse racing laying service Donkey Lays finished our three month trial with a profit of 37 points.
With a high strike rate of 77% and a decent ROI of 9%, the service is worthy of a PASSED rating from us.
The only issue we had were a number of discrepancies between our results and the official ones, although the official ones actually recorded a lower profit for our trial period so we don’t think it was a case of trying to embellish their results, it just seemed to be some kind of system error.
In any event, you can’t fault Donkey Lays for that as they just produce the tips, we just hope that the Pro Betting Club can improve their processes and ensure the accurate reporting of results going forward.
Just a reminder that horses are only a selection with this system if the odds are below 4.0 in the place market at the off. If they are, then you lay the horse in both the win and place markets.
That can mean you are laying at high odds in the win market in some instances (up to 18 so far for example), so a decent sized betting bank is recommended – we would say at least 150-200 points.
Anyway, good work from them over the last month – let’s see if it continues.
The trial started off in the worst possible fashion with the first lay being unsuccessful at odds of 18.0 – ouch! But they have fought back well, particularly over the last week or so to get themselves back level for our trial.
Just a note that there are couple of small discrepancies between our results and the official results, which we have notified the Pro Betting Club of. These make very little difference to the overall results (just one point in fact), just the odd selection that should/should not have been a qualifier according to the system rules.
Anyway, let’s see if there’s some positive progress from them over the next month.
We’ve probably all been there. A horse that runs like it’s only get three legs. Or is moving in quicksand. Or it’s actually a donkey.
Yep, those wretched selections that look like they couldn’t win a race if they ran every day between now and the next millennium.
Well the service we are starting a review of today specialises in finding those very horses. Strange, you may say, to target such beasts. But in fact they are betting on these horses to lose – phew!
Donkey Lays is a service from the Pro Betting Club stable of tipsters and lays horses to lose in the win and place markets on Betfair.
Horses are only a selection if the odds are below 4.0 in the place market at the off. Whilst that does limit the liabilities somewhat, it can still allow horses to be laid in the win market at 18.0, so a decent sized bank is required if following this service.
Donkey Lays has been running for five months now on the Pro Betting Club platform and each of those months so far has been profitable:-
– January 2021: +31.93 points
– December 2020: +16.3 points
– November: +46.09 points
– October: +28.81 points
– September: +44.11 points
So that’s 167 points profit in total.
The lays in the win market have had a 90% strike rate so far and the lays in the place market have had a 67% strike rate. Those are very solid figures and mean a high proportion of successful lays.
Now we should point out that of all the laying services we’ve tried here at HBR, only one is still standing after passing a trial and that is Little Acorns.
So it’s a tough discipline to succeed in but Donkey Lays looks promising enough to test out and see if it can break the mould.
Please note we started proofing on 1st February so will record results from then. As ever we will update results here as we go along.
We have reached the end of our five month trial of Betmarkets.io and wanted to wrap up our thoughts on our review.
This is one of those situations where we are giving our verdict on two separate things really – one is the platform itself and the other is the tipsters we followed.
Before we get onto both of those though, just a quick recap on what Betmarkets is all about:-
Essentially Betmarkets is a tipster copy platform. It bills itself as the “Etoro for betting” and if you have ever used that service, it is a very apt description.
Basically you choose from a variety of tipsters across a range of sports, all with verified track records. You choose how much money you want to follow them with and then their bets are replicated automatically on your account.
You just pay 20% of any profit a bettor makes you, there are no other fees or subscriptions to pay.
Betmarkets Platform Review
So that’s what Betmarkets is all about. In terms of the platform itself, we think it’s a great idea and one of the most innovative breakthroughs in the betting world for quite some time.
As we said when opening our review:-
– It takes the time and effort out of following a group of tipsters as the bets are placed for you automatically
– No more missing bets because you didn’t get an e-mail/Telegram message in time
– No rushing to get the advised prices before the odds move against you
– Being able to select a portfolio of tipsters with verified track records
– Use of “sharp” bookmakers as well as exchanges
– All bets are tracked in real time so you can see exactly how each tipster is doing
And we can say having tested Betmarkets for five months, all of that is true. It operated very much as expected and is simple to use.
How it Works
Here’s a look at how it works and how you can go about selecting your tipsters (or “bettors” as they are called on Betmarkets).
Firstly, you can take a look at the various bettors on the platform by clicking “Discover” in the left-hand sidebar:
This brings up lists of the top tipsters based on their “featured” ones, “most copied,” “highest return” and so on.
Here’s a list of those bettors with the highest return (all time):
You can then click through and filter the tipsters by sport, category and timeframe.
Here are the top soccer tipsters for the last 12 months, for example:
It’s all very user-friendly and gives you a variety of options for choosing which tipsters you want to follow. From that point of view it couldn’t be much simpler really.
Once you have spent some time going through the tipsters and choosing which ones you would like to follow, you need to allocate some funds to following them.
Here is an example of the football tipster Grzegorz P:
You can choose how much you would like to allocate to the bettor in question and then you can choose your risk approach – 1.0x, 1.5x or 2.0x.
It then tells you the likely bet sizes and monthly profit/loss estimates.
So in the example above, if we allocated €100 to this bettor using a 1.0x approach, then our bet sizes would be between €1 and €3 and the estimated profit/loss would range between -€11.02 and +€17.48 per month.
If however we decided to go for a 2.0x risk approach, our bet sizes would be between €2 and €6 and the estimated profit/loss would range between -€22.05 and +€34.95 per month.
This is a feature we really like about Betmarkets. Firstly the fact that all this information is displayed clearly so you have an idea of how much you are going to be risking and what the range of returns might be.
Secondly, that their allocations are fairly conservative. We have used some copy trading apps in the financial trading world which allow very high risk in relation to the funds you have, leading to a strong likelihood your bank will get wiped out. They do this because they take the other side of your trades, effectively betting against you. So they are quite happy to see you go bust.
This isn’t the case with Betmarkets – quite the opposite in fact. They make profit when you do, i.e. when a bettor makes a profit for a given period. So they have an interest in making sure safe risk levels are used and people don’t wipe out their banks too easily.
In terms of how the placement of bets worked, this all seemed to operate very smoothly and we didn’t see any issues of bets failing to be placed or anything like that.
The only issue we did experience was noted in one of our review updates below, with one of the bettors Danny chasing his losses and becoming somewhat erratic. This could happen with any tipster of course, but is perhaps worse on a platform like this because the copying is automatic whereas if you were following a tipster manually you might notice a bit earlier.
In any event, it seems to have been an isolated incident and didn’t make much of in impact on our overall experience on Betmarkets. If you have a portfolio of 5-10 bettors (or more) with an even allocation spread across them then hopefully something like this shouldn’t affect you too badly.
OVERALL VERDICT – PASSED
Overall we would say we were very impressed with the Betmarkets platform. It’s an impressive piece of technology and takes a lot of the hassle out of following tipsters. It gets a definite thumbs up from us.
Tipster Results
Looking at the results of the tipsters we followed, sadly it wasn’t such a positive story. From a starting bank of €1000, we finished €291 down.
We followed six bettors in total and their individual records were as follows:-
Bettor
Sport
Profit (€)
Filip H.
Football
-67.68
Radek M
Football
-49.53
Nishi K.
Tennis
-13.66
Mikel S.
Esports
-6.39
Neil M.
Football
-47.82
Danny D.
Esports
-106.22
So as you can see quite a sorry tale, with all six bettors making a loss.
In that sense, we would probably fail these tipsters, although Mikel S didn’t do too badly and in fairness to Neil M, he operates his own tipping service (which we have reviewed previously and given a strong passed rating to), the prices he obtained for Betmarkets were worse than those his members would get, meaning these results don’t accurately reflect his tipping skills. In fact we understand Neil is no longer on Betmarkets for this reason.
In any event, it was quite disappointing to lose nearly a third of our betting bank on Betmarkets. Perhaps we were just unlucky in the bettors we chose, or weren’t very good at picking them 🙂 Although we did spend a lot of time going through betting markets so maybe we shouldn’t be so hard on ourselves.
Anyway, hopefully if you have a go on Betmarkets you will have a bit more luck in the bettors you follow. For us it didn’t work out sadly but we will keep an eye on Betmarkets for any really promising tipsters who crop up on there and may re-enter the platform as some point in the future.
Sadly this trial is not going as we had hoped. The platform is a great piece of technology, it just looks like we’ve been a bit unlucky with the tipsters we’ve chosen to follow.
Interestingly however we’ve seen Jon Roberts of Football Advisor has now joined the platform as a tipster. Jon is a well-respected figure in the industry and we have positively reviewed two of his services – Predictology and Football Advisor Lays – so it is good to see him on Betmarkets.
We imagine they will continue to add prominent tipsters to their list as the platform grows because it is a great tool for bettors as we say. Just need our own results to turn around soon…
Betmarkets is a tipster copy platform where you can automatically copy the bets of professional gamblers. It can be thought of as an “Etoro of the betting world.”
Sadly since we joined the platform in December it’s just been steady losses for us, with a further €145 lost since our last update.
That means we are now €202 down for our trial overall from an initial deposit of €1000.
Half of the losses so far are down to a bettor called Danny, who it seems went somewhat off the rails. We received an email from Betmarkets on the 3rd February stating:-
“As the subject describes, this email is about Danny’s latest behaviour within our platform. Throughout the weekend, Danny showed signals of tilting / chasing his recent losses after a period of poor performance (although his overall results are still above average): he placed bets straight after losing others and his amount staked per bet increased as well.
This is not the first time this happened with Danny, so we decided to temporarily exclude him from the list of bettors that new users can copy and we recommend you to stop copying him for the time being considering the recent behaviour.”
We took their advice and stopped copying Danny, replacing him with Radek M.
It is obviously disappointing this occurred and it could happen with any tipster, although perhaps if you were following tips manually in the normal way you might have spotted it sooner.
Anyway, hopefully that is an isolated incident and none of the other bettors will engage in such behaviour. Let’s also hope for a swift turnaround in fortunes for the bettors we are copying.
Betmarkets is a tipster copy platform where you can automatically copy the bets of professional gamblers. It can be thought of as an “Etoro of the betting world.”
It’s been a bit of a slow start to our trial of Betmarkets however, with a loss of €45 made so far after one month of following five bettors on their platform.
That loss is from a starting bank of €1000, so is “no biggie” as they say, representing just 4.5% of the bank.
With a review like this you are kind of looking at two things – one is the performance of the bettors you choose to follow and the other is the platform itself.
Whilst the performance of the bettors hasn’t been great so far, we have to say the platform itself is excellent and has worked exactly as it should with bets placed automatically and results updated in real time. The information is presented in a very clear, user-friendly way so you can see things like betting history, ROI, open bets etc at the touch of a button.
We do see big potential in Betmarkets in the long run, we just need the bettors we are following to get going and start making some profits.
We are starting a review today of an exciting and innovative new betting product that we think is one of the most disruptive breakthroughs we have seen in the betting world in quite some time.
The service in question is called Betmarkets and essentially it is a tipster copy platform. It bills itself as the “Etoro for betting” and if you have ever used that service, it is a very apt description.
Basically you choose from a variety of tipsters across a range of sports, all with verified track records. You choose how much money you want to follow them with and then their bets are replicated automatically on your account.
Here are Betmarkets explaining the concept themselves:-
As they say, you just pay 20% of any profit a bettor makes you, there are no other fees or subscriptions to pay.
We really like this idea for a number of reasons:-
– It takes the time and effort out of following a group of tipsters as the bets are placed for you automatically
– No more missing bets because you didn’t get an e-mail/Telegram message in time
– No rushing to get the advised prices before the odds move against you
– Being able to select a portfolio of tipsters with verified track records
– Use of “sharp” bookmakers as well as exchanges
– All bets are tracked in real time so you can see exactly how each tipster is doing
We have been waiting for some technology like this to come along for a while and whilst there have been one or two attempts at it previously, this looks like the real deal and we are very impressed by what we seen of the platform so far.
So we have deposited €1,000 into Betmarkets and selected five bettors to follow based on their 12-month and overall records. A couple of these names were already familiar to us from other services we follow so we know these are top tipsters.
We are quite hopeful this can turn into a form of “passive income” for us, producing regular returns on auto-pilot without us having to do anything.
That’s the dream anyway, we will see if it turns into reality during our review! As usual we will provide regular updates on how things are going here.
Mixed Martial Arts (MMA) is a relative newcomer to the betting scene, with bouts being priced up by the bookies only fairly recently compared to sports like horse racing and football, which people have been betting on for over a century.
As such, there are relatively few tipsters covering MMA but a few have started to spring up in recent times.
We started this review during the original covid lockdown last year, as MMA was one of the first sports to get going again after everything shut down.
It’s quite a low volume service with only a few bets per week and some weeks with no bets when there is no MMA action going on.
So we ended up running the trial for a whole year to get a good enough sample size of bets and to take into account the reduced schedule due to covid.
After 12 months the service finished with a profit of 22 points, with a decent strike rate of 60% but a low ROI of 3%.
They were actually doing much better than that earlier on in our trial, going around 70 points up at one stage:
Things tailed off somewhat from that high, but they always stayed in profit throughout our trial.
Overall it was a reasonable effort, but obviously not something to get overly excited about after a year of tips.
In the end we think this narrowly deserves a PASSED rating, in that it still finished in the green and is the first profitable MMA/UFC service we have completed a review of, so may be of interest to those who follow the sport and are looking for some tips.
Service Breakdown
Ease of use: The tips are provided by e-mail, normally in the morning of that night’s action. There are normally just 5-6 bets per week, mostly at the weekends so it’s a fairly simple service to follow.
Availability of prices: We didn’t notice any issues in terms of obtaining the advised prices.
Strike rate: The strike rate for the trial was 60%, which is a good level and meant plenty of winning bets throughout the trial.
Advised Betting Bank: We couldn’t see a specific betting bank recommended for following this service but used a 100 point bank for the purposes of this review and that was never in jeopardy.
Subscription costs: The subscription costs at the time of writing are free for the first 10 days then £19 per month.
OVERALL VERDICT: PASSED
We followed The Notorious Tipster – UFC for a full year to get a really good look at the service and have a large enough sample size of tips to judge it properly.
After our 12 month trial it finished with a profit of 22 points, which isn’t bad. We always say any service that can generate a long-term profit is worthy of praise and this has managed to do that, so we narrowly award it a PASSED rating.
For those with an interest in MMA/UFC it could be worth checking out.
It is coming up to a year since we started this review so will be looking to wrap things up shortly. We normally like to have at least 100 bets – and preferably 200 – as a sample size before completing a review and we have achieved that now with over 200 bets recorded for our trial.
This trial started off very promisingly going over 65 points up at one stage but has hit a bit of a slide in recent times, so we hope they can turn things around and get back to winning ways again soon.
As mentioned in our recent update for another MMA service we are reviewing, there hasn’t been much action lately as the UFC took an extended break over xmas/new year.
Things are back and rolling now though so hopefully they can kick on and continue the good results achieved for our trial to date.
Just a reminder that our results are slightly different to those recorded on the Tipstrr website as apparently Tipstrr don’t have all the fights available.
Anyway, this has been quite an extensive review with over seven months of results so we will be looking to wrap it up shortly.
We have been impressed with the consistency of this service so far, with all but one month being profitable and the one month that wasn’t profitable less than a point was lost so you could call it break even really.
That consistency is what we like to see and long may it continue for them.
Just a reminder that our results are slightly different to those recorded on the Tipstrr website as according to James who runs the service, sometimes Tipstrr doesn’t have all the fights available.
One of the nice things about this service is the high strike rate, with a large number of the bets so far having been successful. Just a small number of bets each week make it straightforward to follow too. All good stuff.
Just a reminder that our results are slightly different to those recorded on the Tipstrr website as according to James who runs the service, sometimes Tipstrr doesn’t have all the fights available.
It’s been a very smooth ride so far with this service and the strike rate has been impressive. Long may it continue.
Just a reminder that our results are slightly different to those recorded on the Tipstrr website as according to James who runs the service, sometimes Tipstrr doesn’t have all the fights available.
Either way though good to see the excellent results over the last month, let’s see if that continues.
Just a note to say that our results are slightly different to those recorded on the Tipstrr website as according to James who runs the service, sometimes Tipstrr doesn’t have all the fights available. He says he always raise a ticket and sometimes they fix it and sometimes not. However, our results reflect the exact tips we received by e-mail from James so we are happy to record those and will continue to do so. We hope that Tipstrr can fix the issues at their end so they are able to record the correct results.
Anyway, a solid start here and hopefully they can kick on.
It’s been a solid start to our trial of MMA expert The Notorious Tipster – UFC, with a profit of 7 points made since we started following the tips at the beginning of May.
Just a note to say the staking we have used for our results is that given out by the tipster in his e-mails to us, which is a little different to the staking listed on the Tipstrr website, who we believe have a standardised staking system across their platform.
Either way the results have been good to this point so let’s look for more of the same going forward.
One of the first sports due to come back after stopping for the coronavirus pandemic is mixed martial arts – specifically the UFC. They have three events planned for 9th, 13th and 16th May in Florida and all eyes will be on them to see if they can make it work with the health protocols they have put in place. The schedule starts with UFC 249 which has some top-quality fights lined up.
So it couldn’t be a better time to start a review of a UFC tipping service. The tipster we are taking a look at today is called The Notorious Tipster – UFC and comes from the Tipstrr platform.
Although they have only been tipping on the platform for a short time, their results look impressive so far with a profit made in each of the three months since they began.
The strike rate to date is a very healthy 70% and the return on investment strong at 26.5%.
Staking varies between 2 and 6 points and tips are normally sent out on the morning of the fight around 10am (UK time). Most of the tips are on the outright fight winner which makes it pretty simple to follow.
The good news is that you can currently get a 10-day free trial of the service which covers the three big fixtures coming up.
With MMA becoming more popular around the world there is also more interest in betting on it so it’s good to see some promising tipsters on the sport emerging too.
We will be watching this service (and another we have lined up to review) closely, particularly now when it’s one of the first major sports to get going again!
As ever we will record results here so check back in to see how they’re getting on.
Over the years we haven’t come across many good US sports tipsters and in fact haven’t found any successful ice hockey (or just hockey as it’s known stateside) tipsters.
So when we came across the NHL Betting Master from the Betting Gods tipster platform, we were eager to check it out as results looked very good coming into our trial.
And the trial started off reasonably well, but just as things were starting to get going, covid hit. Like most sports, ice hockey was largely halted, including the NHL which is this service’s main focus.
They continued tipping through those difficult early months of covid in the various leagues that did keep going like Russia and Belarus.
We wanted to give them enough time to prove themselves once the NHL returned to full action however, so ran a (very) extended trial of almost 18 months.
Sadly though despite all that additional time, the tipster couldn’t get back to winning ways and finished our trial 43 points down.
That represented almost half the betting bank, which was somewhat disappointing given they were over 90 points up earlier on in our trial.
One thing we remarked on during our review updates was the staking being quite variable at between 1 and 10 points per bet, which also made the results a little volatile. Ideally we like to see more simple staking, e.g. 1 or 2 point stakes. We understand that sometimes there is greater confidence in a selection, but such large variation does tend to mean the results end up reflecting the large stakes to a significant extent.
Perhaps surprisingly in this case, it was the nine and ten point bets which actually fared worst, losing a combined 85 points for our trial, whereas the 8 point bets and below made 41 points profit. So there could be an argument for using level staking with this service.
In any event, we can only judge a service on the staking used so in this case unfortunately with a loss of 43 points it’s a FAILED rating for the NHL Betting Master.
Service Breakdown
Ease of use: The tips are provided by e-mail, normally in the morning (UK time) between around 6am and midday, with an occasional tip in the afternoons. There was an average of just 1 tips per day during our trial so it’s a very straightforward service to follow.
Availability of prices: We didn’t notice any issues in terms of obtaining the advised prices.
Strike rate: The strike rate for the trial was 46% which is pretty solid in itself but wasn’t enough to generate a profit during our trial.
Advised Betting Bank: A 100 point betting bank is recommended for the following the service, which seems reasonable to us, although with staking of up to 10 points, a 150 point bank could be used to be on the safe side.
Subscription costs: The subscription costs at the time of writing are £1.99 for the first 15 days then £37 per month.
OVERALL VERDICT: FAILED
Ice-hockey tipsters are a rare breed so were intrigued to see how this tipster got on under a live trial. We ended up running a very extended 18 month trial to take the long covid break into account and to give them a fair shot at proving themselves in their main league, the NHL.
Unfortunately though at the end of our trial they finished 43 points down, so it’s a FAILED rating from us for the NHL Betting Master.
We have mentioned the staking of this service in previous updates as it is quite aggressive at up to 10 points per bet. Interestingly the higher stakes bets haven’t produced better returns however, with the 9 and 10 point bets actually producing a loss of 66 points for our trial.
The one point bets in contrast are 6 points up, so these things don’t always turn out how you would expect in terms of the higher staking producing better returns.
It’s quite remarkable that after over a year and 300 bets, we are pretty much back where we started at even for the trial!
That period has encompassed the difficult times with covid, disruption to the schedule and a long hiatus in the NHL, which meant they were betting in other leagues around the world, so it has been a very unusual time obviously. Now with a bit more stability hopefully they can kick on and at least finish our trial in profit.
We have run this review for longer than normal but we felt with the NHL so disrupted by covid we wanted to give the service a chance to prove itself when the NHL was back up and running as normal.
We have that now so it’s all systems go and let’s see if they can get back to winning ways.
We commented last time that they seem to struggle a bit with the non-NHL leagues from around the world and that is being borne out with their results lately.
Thankfully then the new NHL season is due to get underway on 13th January so not long to wait until their speciality is back on again and hopefully they can get back to winning ways.
With the NHL season now finished they are back to tipping in other leagues around the world, which may explain the dip in form. When the NHL returned after the covid break their form really picked up with some strong profit made, so that appears to be their forte – as the name of the service suggests.
We don’t know when exactly the new NHL season will start but it will be after 1st January 2021.
We have mentioned the staking before, which is quite variable with this service at between 1 and 10 points per selection. They recommend a 100 point bank when following the tips but perhaps a 150 point bank would be more appropriate given the staking.
Either way it’s good to see the recent progress for them since the NHL returned.
We remarked last time that with the NHL finally back in action it might see a return to form for the NHL Betting Masterand so it turned out to be, with a nice 28 points profit made since our last update a month ago.
That means he is now 55 points up for our trial overall.
Staking is quite variable with this tipster, with between 1 and 10 points used per bet so it’s important to bear that in mind and ensure you have a big enough betting bank. They recommend a 100 point bank for following the service but we think a 150-200 point bank is probably more appropriate with the level of staking used.
Either way though it’s been good to see the recent results now the NHL is back.
Thankfully the NHL is now finally(!) back underway after a very long break so it may take a bit of time for the form to settle down and things to get back to normal, as has been the case for many sports since the restart.
Hopefully though once it does the NHL Betting Master will get back to the kind of form shown prior to the covid break and give the bookies a thorough beating again.
The good news is the NHL is due to restart in early August with a 32-team playoff tournament with the Stanley Cup to be awarded in October.
This tipster has been making do – and doing pretty well – with ice hockey from places like Russia and Belarus whilst the NHL has been suspended due to covid, but no doubt will be looking forward to getting back to tipping in their bread and butter: the NHL.
We look forward to that too and hopefully seeing them get back to the kind of form we saw early in our trial and before which was very strong.
As mentioned last time we want to wait until the NHL is back up and running before judging this service because at the moment they are betting on other leagues in places like Russia and Belarus but are really just treading water. So we will continue to monitor and hopefully won’t have to wait too much longer for the NHL to return.
Although they initially did very well tipping in other leagues whilst the NHL has been in lockdown, that has recently gone the other way and now they’re pretty much back where they started in mid-March.
It’s probably best to reserve judgement until the NHL is up and running again and they can get back to their bread and butter, as it were.
On that front a firm date for the league’s return has not been confirmed yet, but with full training camps not due to return until at least 1st Julyit looks like we are in for a bit of a wait in any event.
As mentioned previously, even though the NHL itself has been suspended, the NHL Betting Master is still using his knowledge of ice hockey to provide selections in other leagues such as Belarus and Russia which are continuing unabated for the time being.
There is no firm date for the return of the NHL yet, but the most aggressive possible timeline is 15th May for players to return to training, followed by some exhibition games in June and then the season to restart in July. As with most other sports, we’ll just have to wait and see whether that proves possible.
Even though the NHL itself has been suspended, the NHL Betting Master is still using his knowledge of ice hockey to provide selections in other leagues such as Belarus and Russia and has been doing well in those leagues so far.
How long those leagues continue remains to be seen but the for the time being it’s good that he has been able to find some profit from them whilst they are still in action.
The nice thing about this service is that it’s very easy to follow with just one bet per day on average and you can use Betfair to often beat the advised prices.
Let’s see if the recent run of positive form continues.
It’s been a rough old time lately for the NHL Betting Master, with all of his previous gains for our trial wiped out over the last month or so unfortunately.
With a loss of 52 points since our last update, he is now 10 points down for our trial overall.
It’s a very easy service to follow with just one bet per day and the results so far have been very encouraging so we are hopeful this is going to be a really top service. Early days yet obviously but the signs are good.
With the legalization of betting in some American states you are starting to see more US sports tipsters popping up, which is encouraging to see.
Up until now though we haven’t come across any good ones, or any good enough to pass a trial here at Honest Betting Reviews in any event.
However, that might be about to change with the latest service we are going to take a look at, namely the NHL Betting Master.
The results for the last year during which they have been proofing to Betting Gods look fantastic and we have been following the tips for the last few weeks and been very impressed too.
Over the last 12 months they have made £3,194 profit to £10 stakes and made an average monthly profit of £266. That has equated to a more than trebling of the advised 100 point betting bank.
Eleven out of twelve months so far have been profitable, which is obviously a superb level of consistency.
The return on investment (ROI) is a whopping 35%, with a very high strike rate of 48%, which are some of the highest combined metrics we have seen from any tipster.
Normally when you have a high strike rate approaching 50%, it is very tough to also achieve a high ROI because you are tipping at low odds, often around evens, where picking up value is tough.
So typically you would see an ROI around 10% if a tipster had a strike rate around 50%. Somehow though this tipster has managed to hit achieve over 30%, which is quite remarkable.
Like we say we’ve been following the tips since early November and have been mighty impressed. Not just with the profits made (over £200 to £10 stakes), but the consistency and the ease of following, with just one bet per day normally and being able to place them on Betfair – where we’ve often been able to beat the advised odds.
Of course it’s very early days so we shouldn’t get carried away and that’s exactly where our review comes in – to look at the longer-term performance.
So we will kick off the review formally today, although will record results from when we started receiving tips on 9th November.
As you can probably tell we are quite excited about this one given the overall package; let’s hope they can deliver the same kind of consistency during our trial – and beyond.
Pyramid Racing is a horse racing tipster from the Pro Betting Club stable of tipsters. The service provides each-way selections in UK racing, covering both flat and National Hunt racing.
They came into our review with a fairly strong-looking set of results, with over 200 points profit reportedly won.
However, there was a claim on the Pyramid Racing page on the Pro Betting Club which concerned us, saying “Long term profits are GUARANTEED with Pyramid Racing.”
We remarked at the outset of our review that this was a dangerous thing to say – firstly because profits are never guaranteed and secondly because you are setting yourself up for a fall.
Fall is exactly what they did, having a shocking trial that finished with a loss of 60 points at advised prices. That represented 80% of the advised betting bank.
At Betfair SP the whole betting bank was blown.
Pretty much as bad as you can get then.
As you can see from the graph below, it was pretty much just losses all the way through:
It looks like the service has now been discontinued, as we have not received any tips since the latter part of April and there is no page for Pyramid Racing on the Pro Betting Club website any more.
So there isn’t much else left for us to say other than this obviously receives a FAILED rating and was one of the worst trials we have run here at Honest Betting Reviews for quite some time.
It’s a slightly worse picture at Betfair SP, with another 20 points lost since our last update and 84 points lost for our trial so far.
This is from a service that said “long-term profit is guaranteed,” which is not ageing well at the moment.
We are getting close to losing the full 75 point starting bank (and at BSP it is already gone), so it may not be too long before we are wrapping this review up.
Things have been even worse at Betfair SP, with a loss of 64 points made so far.
Those losses are from a recommended 75-point starting bank, so we are talking about two thirds of the bank gone already after just over a month.
We did say in our opening to the review that we were concerned by their statement that “long-term profit is guaranteed,” which is looking like a questionable claim at the moment.
We also have a couple small discrepancies again with the official results, which don’t make much difference to the picture overall but just wanted to note that here.
So after starting our first trial of a Pro Betting Club service for quite a while the other day, today we are going to start another.
The other day it was Donkey Lays we started a trial of and the service we are looking at today is called Pyramid Racing.
This is a more typical backing service providing each-way selections in UK racing, covering both flat and National Hunt racing.
It is a relatively new service, having only been going since July of last year.
In that time it has amassed over 200 points profit however according to the results published on the Pro Betting Club website, at a very high return on investment of 37%. The strike rate has also been strong at 36%.
There have been six winning months so far out of seven, which is impressive consistency.
Here are the monthly totals to date:-
– January 2021: -2 points
– December 2020: +4 points
– November 2020: +34 points
– October 2020: +10 points
– September 2020: +46 points
– August 2020: +64 points
– July 2020: +58 points
Excellent results there as you can see. Now it just remains to be seen if they can repeat those under live trial conditions. We have seen plenty of services with impressive-looking results prior to a trial struggle badly when it came to live proofing, so we will reserve judgement for the time being.
Worryingly on the website it says “Long term profits are GUARANTEED with Pyramid Racing.” Well profits are never guaranteed (unless you are matched betting but that is time-limited until the bookies restrict you), so it pains us whenever we see something like that.
Anyway, let’s hope at least it turns out to be a positive trial, even with this unnecessary statement.
As usual results will be posted here as we go along.
In the meantime you can check out Pyramid Racing for yourself here.
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eSports have grown in popularity immensely in recent years and now attract large audiences and interest from fans around the world. As with just about anything these days, if it’s a popular pastime or pursuit, then you can often bet on it too and that is the case with eSports.
We have to say we are not too familiar with eSports and haven’t watched it before, but it is becoming quite popular as we say, particularly with the younger generations.
It’s not something we would necessarily think would be easy to bet on either, as essentially you are wagering on how different players perform playing video games. Of course it may be possible to develop an edge in some way, so we wouldn’t rule it out.
The eSports Betting Guru is a service that hoped to have such an edge and make a profit from betting on eSports. The tips are provided by a chap called Dan, a full-time data scientist by day using those skills to also pick out some solid eSports betting tips across various games including CS:GO, League of Legends, DOTA and Overwatch.
The service launched with quite a lot of fanfare and expectations were set quite high.
However, after six months of following the service, sadly those expectations weren’t fulfilled and it ended our trial with a loss of 50 points.
That represented two thirds of the betting bank, which is obviously quite a worrying amount.
The service went into loss very early on in our trial and never recovered, steadily falling further as our review went on.
At the current time the service is closed to new members, so we wonder how much longer it may continue operating in any event.
Either way though, unfortunately the eSports Betting Guru receives a FAILED rating from us after a disappointing trial.
Service Breakdown
Ease of use: The tips are provided by e-mail and come in at different times of day. There are an average of around 1-2 tips per day so it’s a pretty straightforward service to follow.
Availability of prices: We didn’t notice any issues in terms of obtaining the advised prices.
Strike rate: The strike rate for the trial was 50% which is pretty solid in itself but wasn’t enough to generate a profit during our trial.
Advised Betting Bank: A 75 point betting bank is recommended for the following the service, which suffered considerable damage during our trial with two thirds of it being lost. We think a 100 point bank would be more appropriate here.
Subscription costs: The service is closed to new members at the moment so there are no subscription costs available.
OVERALL VERDICT: FAILED
eSports is a relatively new phenomenon and has grown in popularity in recent years. As with most popular pastimes and pursuits these days, there is now the option to bet on it too.
The eSports Betting Guru service came into our trial with high expectations but in the end failed to make the grade unfortunately with a loss of 50 points made, meaning a FAILED from us.
It has also been a quiet month in betting terms with only 18 tips advised, but unfortunately that selective approach has not resulted in positive returns so far.
They have now lost over half the advised 75 point starting bank so could do with turning things around before we start getting towards the bank-wipeout stage.
The bet volume has been quite low lately, probably due to a lack of action over the Xmas and new year period but the last few results have been a bit more promising so let’s see if that’s a sign of things to come.
Bets are recommended with a range of bookies including the “sharps” – Pinnacle, 188Bet, Dafabet etc, as well the “softs” like Bet365, William Hill etc.
This service was introduced with quite a lot of fanfare and expectations were high so it’s been a bit disappointing to see the results so far, but it is still early days and plenty of time to turn things around.
For those not familiar with it, eSports is basically competitive video-gaming. It involves competitions in various video games between professional players, individually or in teams.
It has grown hugely in popularity in recent years and (before the covid pandemic at least) had stadiums full of people watching the biggest contests.
We have to admit it’s rather unfamiliar to us and we have never sat down and actually watched a live eSports game (or match?) but it’s all the rage with younger folk these days we understand.
We always say though we don’t mind what a service bets on as long as it has shown an ability to give those darn bookies a good bashing and the service we are taking a look at today has certainly done that.
It is a specialist in eSports betting and is causing some serious waves in the betting community.
The service is called the eSports Betting Guru and is based at the reputable Betting Gods tipster platform.
The tips come from a chap called Dan, a full-time data scientist by day using those skills to also pick out some solid eSports betting tips across various games including CS:GO, League of Legends, DOTA and Overwatch.
The strike rate of the selections to date is 66% and the total profit stands at 68 points since Dan started tipping in June.
That has been achieved with a return on investment of over 15% and the bank has nearly doubled in just four months which is very good going.
So those results look pretty stellar and there has certainly been a great deal of excitement about the launch of this new tipster, with spaces for the tips filling up fast.
Let’s hope the long-term results match that excitement and we see some steady, consistent profits. We will launch our trial today then and please check back here for updates to see if that turns out to be the case.
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The tips are provided by a guy called Tony who likes to keep things as simple as possible. He provides bets in markets such as over/under goals, both teams to score, and the match outcome. He says he’s not into laying or Asian handicaps and instead prefers bets where you can actually follow the game and understand what’s going on.
Tony focuses very much on value bets, and has been betting this way personally now for several years – it’s apparently his main source of income and what he does full-time, according to the information on the Betting Gods website.
Judging by the results of our trial, we hope he has some alternative source of income because he would be struggling to live off his gambling returns lately.
After a seven month trial he finished 30 points down, which represented 40% of the advised betting bank of 75 points.
Things just never really got going for Tony – he went down early on in our trial and never recovered. It was just a steady move downwards over the course of our review.
With over 27 bets proofed over an extended seven month period, it was a reasonable sample size of tips to get a feel for the service.
The return on investment was negative 8%, which is quite a disappointing level. The strike rate wasn’t too bad in itself at 48%, but wasn’t enough to generate a profit during our trial.
So it is perhaps no surprise that this service receives a FAILED rating from us. As ever with tipsters, it is of course possible that we just caught the service at a bad time. But there would need to be a substantial improvement in performance for us to reconsider our rating here.
Service Breakdown
Ease of use: The tips are provided by e-mail, normally around 6-7pm UK time the day before matches, so plenty of time to get the bets on. There are an average of around 1-2 tips per day so it’s a pretty straightforward service to follow.
Availability of prices: We didn’t notice any issues in terms of obtaining the advised prices.
Strike rate: The strike rate for the trial was 48% which is pretty solid in itself but wasn’t enough to generate a profit during our trial.
Advised Betting Bank: A 75 point betting bank is recommended for the following the service, which seems fairly reasonable to us, although a 100 point bank might be more advisable given the results achieved during our trial.
Subscription costs: The subscription costs at the time of writing are £1.99 for the first 15 days then £27 per month.
OVERALL VERDICT: FAILED
Sadly the Master Football Tipster failed to live up to their name during our extended seven month trial, finishing with a loss of 30 points.
Things just never really got going for them and with nearly half of the betting bank lost during our trial, unfortunately it is a FAILED rating for this service from us.
Although the results so far have been disappointing, it’s worth bearing in mind that the loss of 24 points only represents just under a third of the recommended 75 point betting bank, so it is certainly no wipe out yet.
But obviously they will need to turn things around soon to make it viable for members to follow the service with subscription fees to pay etc.
We hope everyone had a good Xmas and you are now settling in to watch a great day of sport on Boxing Day!
In terms of this review, it’s been something of a step backwards over the last month for Master Football Tipster, with a loss of 12 points made since our last update.
That means they are now 19 points down for our trial overall.
As mentioned previously, most of the bets are in the Both Teams to Score and over 2.5 goals markets, which are normally available on Betfair for the selected matches. Sometimes you can beat the advised odds which is good.
Anyway, let’s hope to see some improvement for this tipster over the next couple of months as it’s been a bit of stuttering start to their time as a tipster since going live.
They seem to be hitting their stride now with a nice run of seven winners in a row recently, which came just after a run of seven winners out of eight.
Most of the selections are in the “Both Teams to Score” (or BTTS) market, with a few in the over 2.5 goals market. The odds are generally obtainable and you can use Betfair to place the bets, which has good liquidity for these markets.
Not an ideal start then but very early days so plenty of time for them to turn things around.
The tips are provided by a guy called Tony who likes to keep things as simple as possible. He provides bets in markets such as over/under goals, both teams to score, and match outcome. He says he’s not into laying or Asian handicaps and instead prefers bets where you can actually follow the game and understand what’s going on.
Tony focuses very much on value bets, and has been betting this way personally now for several years – it’s apparently his main source of income and what he does full-time.
The results to date suggest he knows what he’s doing, with a profit of £672 made to £10 per point since starting proofing to Betting Gods back in May.
That has been achieved with a return on investment (ROI) of 22%, which is very impressive in football betting. The strike rate is also high at 62%, so the numbers stack up very nicely for the Master Football Tipster.
He is also in great form with ten winning bets in a row!
So it’s a nice time to kick off a review with the football season having just got underway and a feast of action coming up over the next few months.
We will update results here as we along so you can see how the trial is going.
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Hidden Winners is a horse racing service from the Back Lucrative team, whose main service we previously reviewed and gave a passed rating to after it made over 100 points profit during our trial.
Their Hidden Winners service is based on backing horses in generally overlooked races like maidens and non-handicaps. These races tends to have limited useful information available on a racecard and shrewd punters, pundits and tipsters usually give them a miss.
This opens up opportunities to exploit, particularly away from the top end of the market where most money tends to go. This is what Hidden Winners aims to do, by using their years of experience at finding value in the market and identifying under-the-radar horses.
It’s an approach we liked the sound of and were eager to see how it would get on under live trial conditions, particularly as Michael and his Back Lucrative team have such a long track-record of success.
So how did it get on in our review?
We ran a full seven month review and it performed very well in that time, notching up 61 points profit at advised prices.
That was from backing selections win-only if they were below 7/1 and each-way if above that price. The strike rate was a solid 24% and the ROI was respectable at 7%.
That approach wasn’t profitable at Betfair SP however, with a loss of 18 points made for our trial.
There is an alternative method of following the selections though and that is backing them win-only. That method made 34 points profit at advised prices and 32 points profit at BSP.
Using the equivalent staking to the each-way method (i.e. 2 points per selection), that actually works out slightly better than the e/w method, with a profit of 68 points at advised prices and 64 points at BSP.
Obviously if you are betting win-only then the strike rate will be lower, so you will need a bigger starting bank and more patience, so it is up to the individual member to choose the strategy that is most appropriate for them.
Whichever method used however, Hidden Winners produced a healthy profit so we are happy to award it a PASSED rating. Another solid offering from the Back Lucrative team to consider adding to your portfolio.
Service Breakdown
Ease of use: You have to log in to the site each morning to find the bets as they are not provided by e-mail. Generally we prefer it when tips are sent by e-mail as it is easier for members and means you are less likely to miss or forget about the tips, but we can understand some services opt for a log-in option as it is less likely for tips to be shared.
In any event, there are an average of two tips per day (with no tips on Sunday), so it’s quite an easy service to follow.
Availability of prices: There was a little bit of pressure seen on prices so it is advisable to get on the tips as quickly as possible. As stated above, the Betfair SP results finished in a small loss if going win-and-place, but made a profit if betting win-only. That is likely due to some of the higher odds selections which can often be much higher at BSP, thus providing a boost to the win-only results.
Strike rate: The strike rate for the trial was 24% (including placed horses) which is pretty solid and the losing runs weren’t too bad during our trial.
Advised Betting Bank: A 100 point betting bank is recommended if you are betting each-way, which seems fair to us. If betting win-only, a 200 point bank is recommend, which also sounds about right.
Subscription costs: The subscription costs at the time of writing are free for the first 7 days then £39 per month, £99 per quarter or £199 per year.
OVERALL VERDICT: PASSED
Hidden Winners is a horse racing service that focuses on finding value selections in under-the-radar races such as maidens and non-handicaps.
It made a healthy 61 points profit if backing each-way or 68 points profit if backing win-only to equivalent staking. We are therefore happy to award the service a PASSED rating. Another solid offering from the Back Lucrative stable.
After being well behind the Betfair SP results are finally in profit, even if only by 2 points after a gain of 49 points since our last update.
The win-only results continue to move along nicely too with 49 points profit made at advised prices and 42 points profit at BSP. Please note you can see the win-only results in the second tab of our results spreadsheet.
Those results are to one point stakes where as the advised staking is to two points, so really in equivalent terms the win-only results are +98 points at advised prices and +84 points at BSP.
It seems pretty clear that it is not practical to follow the service at BSP (to win-and-place anyway), with the loss for our trial now standing at 47 points.
Interestingly though it is a much rosier picture at win-only, with a profit of 39 points made at advised prices and 24 points made at BSP. Please note you can see the win-only results in the second tab of our results spreadsheet.
Those results are to 1-point stakes where as the advised staking is to 2 points, so really in equivalent terms the win-only results are +78 points at advised prices and +48 points at BSP.
There is a bit of a gap opening up between the results at advised prices and BSP however, with the latter losing a further 12 points since our last update and now sit 27 points down.
We mentioned last time we would also be tracking the results at win-only rather than at the advised each-way staking and backing win-only continues to outperform, with a profit of 84 points made at advised prices and 27 points profit made at BSP at equivalent staking.
So it’s looking like win-only may be the way to go with this one, presuming you are OK with the longer losing runs and bigger bank needed of course.
There’s not been much change overall to the results for horse racing service Hidden Winners, with a loss of just one point at advised prices since our last update a month ago.
That means they are now 5 points up for our trial overall at advised prices.
At Betfair SP it was a more positive month, with 5 points profit made since our last update. That still leaves the service 15 points down at BSP for our trial overall however.
Just a note that these results are for backing at the advised staking, which is 2 point win if the odds are under 8.0 at the time the bet is advised, or 1 point win and 1 point place if the odds are over 8.0 at the time advised.
If backing just one point win on all selections, the profits at advised prices would actually be +22 points, so quite a bit better than the advised staking and also a higher ROI.
We will keep an eye on that to see if it is the way to go with these tips. Obviously you will have a lower strike rate if backing win-only so it will only be for the more patient followers, but could still be worth it overall.
It’s been a much tougher month at Betfair SP, with a loss of 36 points made since our last update. That means they are now 20 points down for our trial at BSP.
To be fair they have been unlucky with a number of seconds lately – three in four races to start the month actually – so with a little bit of the rub of the green things could be looking a lot better. That is racing – and betting – for you though. Hopefully the luck will even itself out and we’ll see a patch of winners this month.
At Betfair SP the results are actually slightly better, with a profit of 16 points made for our trial to date.
It’s a nice easy service to follow, with just 2-3 bets per day posted by around 10am in the morning, which you can place at Betfair SP if you like and then you are done for the day.
Just a note that due to high demand the service is currently closed to new members, but we will alert you if/when they open up again and in the meantime you can add your name to the waiting list if you would like priority access.
You may have seen the release of an exciting new betting strategy this week called Hidden Winners and the free trial they are running at the moment.*
It comes from the Back Lucrative team, whose main service we are currently reviewing and which is doing very well (over 100 points up at the time of writing).
Michael who runs Back Lucrative is one of the most respected names in the tipping business, having made over 1500 points profit from his tips over the last seven years.
So we were very interested when he contacted us about his new Hidden Winners service. It wasn’t just the reported results – which by the way look very impressive with over 389.37 points profit made at an ROI of 31.2% at Betfair SP and 504 points profit made at bookies’ odds.
It was the theory behind the service that intrigued us. As Michael himself explains:
“The Madness Of Crowds…
This is the phrase I use to describe a common occurrence, in races where the majority of the runners have limited previous form…
In races like these (non-handicaps for the most part)…
– There is limited useful information available on a standard set of racecards (like those on the Racing Post site), meaning the crowd is less informed…
– Shrewd punters, pundits and tipsters usually give these races a miss (for obvious reasons), and therefore…
– The betting market is often dominated by the gamblers (i.e. people happy to bet randomly and hope for a win)…
Can you call gamblers who bet randomly wise? Probably not…
But you could call them mad, and a mad crowd can do funny things to the betting market…
In these races you often find…
– Odds-on favourites getting turned over… – Plenty of value away from the top end of the market… – Horses with no previous form whatsoever winning by clear margins…
This is exactly what our exciting new Hidden Winners strategy capitalises on…”
We really like the idea of identifying value in these often overlooked races where money talks and certain stables/trainers have a habit of landing a touch at juicy odds.
So we are eager to see how this performs under a live trial as we think it could be a real winner and with the added bonus of potentially being profitable at Betfair SP.
Let’s not get too ahead of ourselves though, as ever the proof of the pudding will be in the eating…which you will be able to see here as we update results during the trial.
We previously reviewed Ron Williams Racing, a service that performed well in our original trial and has continued to perform well since then.
However, we have had a number of concerns regarding the reporting of their results.
This was noted earlier this year, when they had recorded February 2020 as a £927 profit on their results page when in fact it was a -£927 loss.
After we contacted them they adjusted this on the results page, which was good.
However, another discrepancy in their reporting of results has occurred. They have recorded January 2021 as a £508 profit on their results page, when in fact judging by their spreadsheet it was a £26 loss.
There also appear to have been other discrepancies and issues, which are detailed further at Tipsters Exposed.
Are these discrepancies cock-up or conspiracy?
We can’t say, but either way it is not a good look. As we say, the overall results from this tipster have been good, but the accurate reporting of results on a tipster’s website is paramount and goes to the issue of trust and accountability.
So we will leave it up to individual gamblers as to whether they wish to follow this tipster, but for our part we will be removing it from our list of Winning Tipsters. We only want to actively recommend tipsters with a clear track record of accurately reporting their results and there are some question marks over that here.
We would also advise checking out their spreadsheet rather than the results page on their website when looking at the results.
Two years ago we ran a review of a service called Ron Williams Racing – please see below.
He performed superbly in our trial, racking up over 100 points profit and being awarded a 4.5 star rating.
We have continued to proof Ron’s tips since then and he has been the model of consistency, just churning out the profits month after month with the minimum of fuss.
We often say the true mark of a quality tipster is their longevity – do they stand the test of time?
Well Ron Williams has certainly done that. Since we completed our review, Ron has added another 191 points profit at a return on investment of over 27%, which is hugely impressive stuff.
Ron’s monthly results over the last year are as follows, at recommended £20/point stakes:
January 2020: +£42 profit February: -£927 loss March: +£274 profit April: no bets (covid) May: no bets (covid) June: +£386 profit July: -£116 loss August: +£262 profit September: +£73 profit October: +£541 profit November: +£769 profit December: +£512 profit January (so far): +£508 profit
(Please note February 2020 was previously reported as a £927 profit but was in fact a £927 loss).
That’s fantastic consistency in results there and all at very reasonable staking of £20 per point. And it’s profitable to follow at Betfair SP.
It’s a great service and one we are going to upgrade to 5 stars after over two years of proofing. Congrats to Ron on his sterling efforts.
Ron Williams Racing is a tipster service that has been running since July 2017 and we have just completed a six month trial of it.
Ron has built quite a following on Twitter and it is easy to see why with some very strong results reported on his website.
For once we are pleased to say that the results during our trial lived up to the pre-trial ones and an excellent 108 points profit was made to advised prices.
That was achieved with a decent strike rate of 33% and a more-than-respectable ROI of 18%, all adding up to a more than doubling of the bank over the course of six months.
The Betfair SP results also held up well in comparison to the results at advised prices, with a profit of 69 points made, so it looks like the service is practical to follow for those with their bookie accounts restricted.
The profit was pretty steady throughout the trial, as you can see from the graph below:-
In addition to the commendable results, what we like about Ron Williams Racing is the no-nonsense approach to tipping.
There is no big annoying marketing rubbish that you get with a lot of betting websites these days, no big sales pitch, no complicated staking system, just good honest tipping. Bets are sent through each evening with the advised odds and staking and that’s it – just nice and simple.
So all in all there’s a lot to like about Ron Williams Racing and we have no hesitation in awarding this a PASSED rating.
Service Breakdown
Ease of use: Good – tips are sent out the evening before racing, usually around 7-9pm (UK time) and with an average of 2 bets per day there isn’t too much work involved in following the service.
Availability of prices: Good – we found the prices were generally available and the Betfair SP results held up well, with just under 70 points profit made.
Strike rate: The strike rate for the trial was 33% (including placed horses), which is good and kept the bank moving along nicely.
Advised Betting Bank: There is no betting bank advised for following the service but we used a 100-point bank for the purposes of this review and that seems like a comfortable size to use for following the service.
Subscription costs: The subscription costs are pretty reasonable at £1 for the first 14 days then £37 per month (both +VAT).
OVERALL VERDICT: PASSED
We have completed our six-month trial of Ron Williams Racing and it finished with an excellent 108 points profit at advised prices and 69 points profit at Betfair SP.
With a good strike rate of 33% and the betting bank more than doubling over the course of our trial, this receives a definite PASSED rating from us.
We like the no-nonsense approach, just good honest tipping with no fanfare or hype. There’s a lot to be said for that.
Although results at Betfair SP aren’t quite as good as those at advised prices, they are still holding up well with another 40 points profit made since our last update and 71 points profit made for our trial overall.
It’s good to see a tipster living up to their pre-trial billing and producing such strong results as it doesn’t happen very often. This is a no-nonsense service with just high quality tips, no hype or fanfare and there’s a lot to be said for that.
There’s been a slight decline for Ron Williams Racing since our last update at the end of October, with a loss of 14 points at advised prices in that time.
But the good news is that he is still up for our trial overall, with a profit of 46 points made so far at advised prices.
A good sign is that the Betfair SP results are tracking fairly well too, with 15 points profit made since our last update and 48 points profit made overall.
Things moving along very nicely here then and it looks like we have uncovered another gem in the form of Ron Williams Racing. Let’s hope he can keep it going.
Today we are starting a new trial of a horse racing tipster called Ron Williams Racing.
Whilst a lot of the reviews we do these days are from tipster platforms and established betting websites, this one is a stand-alone tipster.
It is quite refreshing in a way to focus on “the little guy” as it were – although perhaps in this instance that isn’t the right way to describe this service.
That’s because Ron already has a huge following on Twitter and has made quite a name for himself.
Just check out some of the tweets from his followers:
“Oh my man!!!! Get in you beauty!!”
“Awesome Ron. Boom.”
“BOOOOOM. Amazing month Ron. Superb tipping. Roll on September.”
“There was me watching lord of the rings, seeing Gandalf, and thinking wizards weren’t real! Ronny, you are pure magic!”
And so on.
From looking at his results you can see why Ron has built up such a delighted bunch of followers, with a profit of £3,422 made since starting up last July to just £20 bets.
That has been made with a return on investment of 22%, which is very decent going.
There tend to be around 2 bets per day so a manageable workload and the odds tend to be below 10/1, with a fair number of favourites being backed.
Ron shows an impressive level of consistency too with 10 out of 11 months having been profitable so far.
There is a 14-day trial available for just £1+VAT, then the monthly subscription fee is £37/month.
So all in all this looks like a promising service and we are looking forward to seeing how it gets on in a live trial, which we will kick off straight away.
In fact we started receiving tips on 30th August so we will record results from then.
Anyway, please check back here for regular results updates on how the trial is going.
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Given the news about Football Index, which we covered in some detail in a post the other day, it obviously makes sense to wrap up this review now.
In case you missed it, essentially Football Index are in financial trouble and have had to cut dividends by over 60%. That led to a crash in users’ portfolio values and a storm of understandable bitterness and anger on social media from people who felt they had been misled by the company. Our view is that Football Index is living on borrowed time in its current form and barring a miraculous turnaround or buyout and restructure, will have to face closing its doors at some stage with so little revenue coming in.
This obviously leaves Football Index Trader (run by a chap called Adam) in a sticky position and you have to feel for him given this was his main occupation. Adam is soldiering on for now whilst Football Index is still going, although members have been given the option to pause their subscriptions.
In terms of the Football Index Trader (or FIT for short) service itself, as we commented in the review below we thought it was excellent. The research was always in-depth and the analysis high quality. There were a high proportion of selections picked out in scouting who went on to perform very well and whilst there were a few who didn’t quite hit the mark, you are never going to have a 100% success rate but on the whole members would have done well following FIT’s advice.
It is obviously no fault of Adam’s that Football Index has got itself into this mess so all we can do really is wrap up this review and say if Football Index had been a well-managed platform and achieved the potential it had, then FIT would have been an excellent resource for people wanting to get the most out of the platform.
If as we say there is some miraculous turnaround or a buyout and restructure, then perhaps it could be once again, although trust with Football Index has been so thoroughly destroyed it is difficult to envisage a way back for it from here.
In any event, we imagine Adam’s skills could be easily transferred to one of the other platforms like Footstock or Sorare should he choose, but we could understand full well if he wants to take his career in another direction after what has happened at Football Index.
So alas all we can say really is that Football Index Trader would have received a resounding PASSED rating, but sadly that looks like rather a moot point now.
Football Index Trader (or FIT for short) is a site designed to help traders maximise their gains on the “Football Stockmarket,” Football Index.
In our last update we covered some of the key features of FIT including “Scouting,” “State of the Market” and the live blogs. Those are really the core of the service but there are some other features as well which we will take a look at today.
Before getting onto those however, it is worth reporting that there has been a bounce back in the market following a recent announcement from Football Index regarding a change to the dividend structure that removes in-play dividends and replaces them with “match day extra” dividends.
This announcement seems to have restored confidence in the platform and got it back to its USP of being more of a long-term trading platform where you are betting on players’ careers (or three years of their careers, at least).
In addition to the general market improvement there have been some really good picks from FIT lately which have been winning dividends and increasing in price, including:
– Mason Mount
– Joao Cancelo
– Bukayo Saka
– Harry Maguire
– Riyad Mahrez
– Thomas Muller
And plenty more besides. As mentioned last time however, it is whether you have the funds to buy all these players, or any of them for that matter if you already have your funds invested.
So there is also the question of portfolio management and availability of funds when following the service. Presuming you do have some funds to buy new players (perhaps from ongoing dividends you are receiving) then FIT has been very adept at picking out players likely to win dividends soon and therefore increase in price.
Anyway, let’s move on to looking at the other aspects of the service:-
Player Ratings
This is where players are given star ratings based on their current performance and potential performance. Ratings are organised by position – goalkeeper, defender, midfielder and attacker and can be sorted by club or ratings top to bottom.
Five stars is for “elite” players who are expected to challenge for performance dividends 10-15 times per season, four stars is for “very strong” players likely to challenge 7-10 times per season and so on.
It’s a useful way of ranking players and comparing them against each other, allowing traders to narrow down their selections and concentrate on the top-rated players.
Transfers
This section of the site is devoted to upcoming transfer windows and where you might find potential bargains. These are players that could either rise in price (and pick up some dividends) purely off transfer speculation or those who could do much better at a new club where they might get more game time and be more comfortable etc.
The transfer section is only really relevant during the run-up to transfer windows so is not something you need to regularly follow, but is worth checking out when a window is coming up.
Wrapping Up
We have covered most of the main site features now in our updates so will look to wrap up soon with the final bits and some closing thoughts.
Overall though we have been very impressed with the service and found the advice indispensable for those involved in the Football Index.
Football Index Trader is a site designed to help traders maximise their gains on the “Football Stockmarket,” Football Index.
Last time we commented that it was very difficult to do an update on Football Index Trader because the market on Football Index had crashed, making it almost impossible to sell shares and therefore making any kind of advice or guidance somewhat obsolete.
Well the good news is that the market has settled down a little over the last month and whilst prices have still been falling, there is at least more liquidity in the market and most players can be sold now. That gives us a more viable basis on which to conduct our review of Football Index Trader (or FIT for short).
So what is FIT exactly?
In essence FIT is more of a guide than a tipping service as such – there aren’t “tips” on which players to buy and sell at particular times, instead there is research and advice that a user can follow to help guide their decision-making. As such we won’t be able to record results for this review in the normal way, but thought we would still take a look at the information provided and our thoughts on it.
How have we found it so far?
Overall we really like the service. Although in many ways we would prefer a straightforward tipping service, the guy who runs FIT says that is against the rules so has constructed his site in the way he has, i.e. as more of an information resource. That means more work on the part of members, but there is very valuable information to be had with a little bit of effort.
Scouting
The real hub of the site is the “scouting” section, which provides updates on the latest round of matches across the leagues and competitions covered by FI and identifies any players who are currently value propositions based on recent performances.
Generally this information is excellent and there have been a number of players we have bought on the basis of being highlighted in scouting – e.g. Theo Hernandez, Angelino, Thomas Lemar, Andre Silva, Andrew Robertson – who we would have been unlikely to buy otherwise but have produced good returns.
At the same time of course there are some players we have bought based on the scouting who haven’t done so well – yet anyway – so it hasn’t been all winners so far, but patience is a virtue with FI so we expect at least some of those players will come good eventually (ahem Dybala, Coutinho).
The danger as well is that there are so many players highlighted in scouting you can end up trying to buy too many players and find yourself with a rather verbose portfolio – something we have definitely been guilty of!
A possible solution to that is to only buy the players on his “explosion imminent” list, which is more selective list of around 20 players he really expects to do well soon.
The point we really value from the scouting and across the site in general though is the focus on value and ignoring the over-hyped, over-valued players who are actually quite poor performers in FI terms, even though they may be good players. It can be just as important knowing who not to buy as who to buy.
And by focusing on the value at the lower end of the market – from 50p up to £2 per share, you start to see how lucrative the returns can be on those “out of favour” players who are genuine quality but have just had a slight dip in form lately or have happened to not hit a dividend win in recent weeks.
We have also utilised the “IPD rotation” strategy very successfully so far, which involves refreshing shares on those players who return a lot in IPD (in-play dividends) but are cheaply priced, either due to age or not being likely to win the Performance Dividends very often. As FIT has said a few times, this is like “printing money,” so we are grateful to him for highlighting that strategy.
Live Blogs and Market Sentiment
Another aspect of the service we really like is the live blogs, when FIT provides a running commentary on the latest developments at Football Index, with very astute insights and an ability to see the wood for the trees – which many supposed “FI experts” on social media seem to lack!
There are also regular updates on the “State of the Market” in which he presents the overall sentiment governing FI at the current time and the reasons for that prevailing mood. This is helpful again in understanding the bigger picture and reminding traders not to panic when things go awry, as well as noting the things that do need to be improved on the platform.
Caan Berry Video Response
It would be remiss of us not to also mention FIT’s response to a recent video by renowned Betfair trader Caan Berry. Basically Caan made a Youtube video explaining the problems (as he saw them) with Football Index in its current form and why he wouldn’t be joining the platform at the moment.
Whilst he made some good points in that video, we felt there were some misunderstandings of the mechanics of FI and some other issues that whilst on the face of it look like problems, when you delve into them more deeply either aren’t actually much to worry about or could easily be dealt with by FI.
These points were dealt with in an excellent and very in-depth blog post by FIT. It is a long post but well worth reading for those either on Football Index or thinking of joining.
To be fair to Caan, he has addressed some of the points in a follow-up video looking at why prices are crashing and what FI can do to fix it, which is also worth a watch.
For what its worth from our point of view, without wanting to get too bogged down in the debate over the mechanics of the platform and market dynamics etc, we think the most important thing for FI is to improve the functionality of the platform and to make it slicker, simpler and more user-friendly.
If they do that then it will be easier to attract new traders and new money, liquidity will increase and everything else will fall into place. The platform will be able to grow organically and any money they spend on marketing will be more effective in attracting new traders.
They should also not announce things and then not be able to deliver them, which they have done numerous times recently (Nasdaq anyone?). It should be the other way round – under-promise and over-deliver.
As Steve Jobs and Elon Musk have said in the past (to paraphrase them) – just have a relentless focus on making your product better and then it will sell itself and people will keep coming back for more.
Offering gimmicks or just increasing the spend on marketing without improving the product would not be advisable in our view.
Overall Thoughts
In summary then we would say we really like FIT and feel it’s definitely worth the cost of membership for anyone serious about trading on Football Index. There’s some great info on there and the overall strategy/mindset of focusing on value is – well, invaluable!
We would like it to be just a little bit simpler/quicker to use – perhaps a summary of the top players found in that week’s scouting for instance, or a “hot players of the week” with a value price band could help.
And whilst there is advice on building a portfolio and the overall strategy, a bit more clarity on how to use scouting and avoiding the pitfalls we have experienced of buying too many players would be of benefit (although perhaps that’s just us!)
At the same time it’s fair to say it has not been an ideal time to do this review with Football Index having been in a state of turmoil recently but with a guide like FIT it’s been easier to stay level-headed and not to panic about the market fluctuations.
It would be nice to be able to talk about some big gains we have made based on FIT’s advice, but unfortunately with the market crash that isn’t possible currently. Hopefully if FI can get their act together and focus on improving the platform though, that’s something we can do in future updates.
We had hoped to provide an update on Football Index Trader, a site designed to help traders maximise their gains on the “Football Stockmarket” known as Football Index.
However, sadly things have been going a little pear-shaped for Football Index lately. They say a picture speaks a thousands words so here is a look at the top 8 players on the platform at the moment:
You might notice a problem…there is a sell price on only one of the players. Of the top 20, there is a sell price on only four players.
What is happening here?
Essentially lots of people want to sell their shares but no-one wants to buy. Confidence in the platform is shot and lots of people are trying to exit…but at the moment they can’t. Not a good situation. Not good at all.
Why is this happening though?
Well a few months ago Football Index changed the way the platform operated. Previously, they had a system whereby Football Index themselves would buy up shares of people who wanted to sell, in a queue system.
In doing so, they were able to maintain tight spreads (the difference between the buy and sell price) and everyone was happy because traders knew they could sell shares of players they didn’t want anymore at a reasonable price – or sell players they had made a good profit on.
We say everyone was happy. Well, not quite everyone…
No, it appears the regulator – which we assume was the UK Gambling Commission – stepped in and said they didn’t like this system as it was an artificial market. In essence Football Index were propping up the market and creating a false sense of security.
So Football Index were forced (as far as we can tell) to adopt mechanisms more akin to a normal stock market – i.e. that other traders would have to buy the shares of those who wanted to sell, not Football Index.
In order to facilitate this, Football Index introduced “Order Books.” We won’t get into the technicalities of how Order Books work, but in essence this is a bit more like a proper market, but with various limits in place in terms of what prices you can buy and sell at, to stop wild fluctuations in the market.
The problem with this forced change is that it came far too early in the life-cycle of Football Index. There just aren’t enough active traders on the platform to provide liquidity. At the moment there are around 3,000 active traders per day. Compare that to Betfair or one of the bookies who have millions of customers and you start to see the problem.
So what you had were huge spreads between the buy and sell prices – or what you have now, no sell price at all!
Football Index are making some changes later this week in an attempt to address these issues, for example by removing the restriction of only being allowed to make an offer (i.e. to sell) 1p below the buy price.
This is welcome and may help to reduce the size of the spreads. However, it does not address the more fundamental problems that FI has – the lack of traders and liquidity.
The fundamental issue is that Football Index is a long way from being a liquid platform. Around 3,000 traders per day is nothing in the grand scheme of things. We imagine they would need to treble or even 10x that to make it reasonably liquid. They say they are searching for “liquidity providers” or market makers but so far this search does not appear to be going well and we are not surprised. At the moment it would look like a big risk to any market maker.
In our own view there are three ways out of this for FI:
– Go back to Instant Sells – which could mean asking the regulator to give them some leeway by temporarily allowing instant sells with Football Index themselves buying the shares again for say a year or two whilst they add more traders to the point where they can remove instant sells and have a liquid platform.
– Get bought out by Betfair or one of the bookies, who could easily bring on board thousands more traders and create the necessary liquidity.
– Provide the liquidity themselves – probably via a separate company but in effect spend a few million propping up the market again until they have more traders and better sentiment.
Without this kind of action we can’t see an easy way out of this for Football Index. Without traders paying commissions on trades, Football Index can’t pay the dividends. And without dividends there is no value in the shares and it becomes pointless. And if they cut the dividends it would send the whole platform into a death spiral.
Anxieties are high at the moment among users of Football Index as evidenced by sentiment on social media. People are worried they could lose all their money if Football Index collapses. How likely is this? It’s very difficult to tell without access to FI’s books and how much capital they have available. But clearly things are a mess at the moment and we don’t see just trundling along without some meaningful action as a viable way forward for them.
We also worry all the current mechanisms and moving parts are making FI just a bit too complicated for the everyday gambler, thus making it more difficult to attract new traders to the platform – which they desperately need and are spending lots of marketing money on. They could do with simplifying things and fixing the bugs on the platform for a start. A new competitor, Sports Stack, has a platform that already feels slicker and more user-friendly to us.
In terms of our review of Football Index Trader, obviously it does leave things in a tricky position as what use is good advice if you can’t sell any players?! Or can only sell them for a big loss, which is what we expect will happen after the changes later this week.
This is slightly compounded by the fact that Football Index Trader highlights a lot of players who are “under the radar” at the cheaper end of the market and potentially represent bargains. So we have added a number of these players to our portfolio. The trouble is these players are now harder to sell as if people want any players, it’s those at the top end who are regarded as safer and more likely to return dividends.
That is not their fault and if the market was operating properly then these players would no doubt do very well and represent value. And indeed the advice has proved accurate on many occasions in terms of highlighting players likely to perform well. It’s just at the moment it doesn’t mean a jot because you can’t sell any shares! (or not at a reasonable price, anyway).
So at the moment we couldn’t recommend anyone to put money into Football Index – and concurrently Football Index Trader. We will see what effect the changes later this week have – but we are not confident they will radically improve things, rather they are likely to cause a big drop in prices but the fundamental issues will remain.
If Football Index are able to take substantial action to improve the platform, or somehow find a market maker to provide the much-needed liquidity, then this could all change and we would at that stage recommence our review of Football Index Trader and go through what it has to offer.
For the time being though it seems best to just keep monitoring the situation until FI is in a better position and there is a realistic prospect of profiting from the platform.
We previously completed a long-term review of Football Index, a platform where you can trade futures (like shares) in footballers.
Having completed our review of the platform itself, we thought it would be a good idea to have a look at some tools to help traders maximise their gains on Football Index.
We mentioned in our final review that we had recently come across a website called Football Index Trader and found it to be a very useful resource.
It seemed only right then to expand on that brief mention and give the service a proper review of its own here on the site.
So what exactly is Football Index Trader (or FIT for short)?
Well it’s more of an advice and information resource rather than “tips” or “trade signals” in the traditional form we normally test out here at Honest Betting Reviews.
The website’s main elements are:
– Scouting – match reports on players, with analysis of their FI scores, potential and if they are value
– Player Ratings – organised by position and out of five stars, based on number of performance wins expected in a season
– Market Analysis – a look at the current state of the market, sentiment, outlook etc.
– Transfers – players with potential transfers coming up that could add to their value, including in media dividends, plus those players to avoid where rumours are unlikely to come to anything
– Guides – general articles and guides on getting the most out of the platform.
As there aren’t any tips as such we won’t be able to record results for this review in the normal way, but thought we would still take a look at the information provided and note some of the trades we make based on that info. Members of the service will all have different results depending on how exactly they use FIT, but our results should at least give some ball-park figures of what you might expect as a member and whether the advice is helpful in achieving returns over and above the average returns of the market (normally termed “alpha” in stock market terms).
We’ve been a member for a few weeks now and have already been using the information to make some buys, so will record our findings from when we joined up rather than from today.
We will update things here as we go along and will break down the different aspects of the service during our updates.
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