Horse Race

Profit at the Races – Eight Month Update

We now have around 8 months of results for Profit at the Races so we thought it would be a good time for an update.

Here are the monthly totals since our trial finished on 9th June 2015:

 

MonthProfit/loss (points)
June (from 9th onwards)-19
July-3.63
August-20.24
September7.97
October (to 20th)9.88
TOTAL-25.02

 

It has been a disappointing run since the trial ended, with the service dropping 25 points. That means since our trial commenced in March, the service is now 8 points down overall.

Unfortunately we do not think a service that is down after 8 months of proofed results merits a continued place on our winning systems list, so this one is downgraded to a neutral rating.

We do look for services to continue to perform consistently over a long period and to show monthly profit as far as possible.

Regrettably Profit at the Races has had quite a few losing months and with a losing record overall since we started following it about 8 months ago, we feel it leaves us little option but to downgrade the service.

However, a total of 8 points down overall is no disaster and with results recorded at Betfair SP, this is a transparent and simple service to follow.

We therefore consider that a downgrade to a neutral rating is a fair verdict.

OVERALL RATING: NEUTRAL  

 

 

 

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Profit at the Races Final Review

9th June 2015

You can get Profit at the Races here.

Profit/loss:+17 points
Strike Rate:18%
Bank Growth17%
Cost:£29.99 per month
ROI:11%
Average number of tips: 2 per day
VERDICT:PASSED  

You can view full results here

 

Profit at the Races Final Review

It’s been a solid trial for Profit at the Races here at Honest Betting Reviews. 

At the end of the three month trial period, they have finished 17 points in profit. Any profit is welcome so we are pleased with that, but things were going quite a bit better early on in the trial, reaching nearly 50 points in profit at one stage.

And just after the trial finished, they landed a 25/1 winner (sod’s law I think they call that!) so perhaps we were a little unlucky with timing.

The services focuses solely on All-Weather racing, so selections have been much fewer since the flat season got under way in May and quite a few days there are no selections at all at the moment. 

It’s very easy to follow though, with selections being provided in the morning by e-mail and you simply back them all at Betfair SP.

Here is a graph of the performance over the course of the trial: 

Profit at the Races Profit Graph

As you can see, it started off in storming fashion, booming up to nearly 50 points profit, before falling all the way back down to zero and then recovering once again to be in profit at the end.

Service Breakdown

Ease of use: Very good – bets are provided in the morning (UK time) and you are instructed to place them at Betfair SP, so very quick and easy to follow.

Availability of prices: Very good – as above, the services records results at Betfair SP so you can guarantee getting the same results as they publish.

Strike rate: The strike rate for the trial was 18% so patience will be required to deal with losing runs.

Advised Betting Bank: A 100 point betting bank is advised, which seems reasonable. We were never in deficit during the trial which was good, but with a fairly low strike rate you should expect some losing runs along the way. Our longest losing run during the trial was 22.

Subscription costs: The subscription costs aren’t too bad at £29.99 per month.

OVERALL VERDICT: PASSED  

Overall I am pleased with the results of the service. It does exactly what it says on the tin – simple, easy to follow and profitable. 

I think we were a little unlucky with timing as just after the trial finished they landed a 25/1 and a 7/1 winner, so results could have been even better.

But as long as they continue to be profitable over the long run then this service warrants a place on our winning systems list. 

Big race bookie busters

Big Race Bookie Busters – Six Month Update

It has been six months now that we have been following Big Race Bookie Busters so we thought time for an update.

Sadly the news it not good. In fact, it’s very bad.

You may recall that Big Race Bookie Busters (or BRBB for short) racked up a hugely impressive 195 points of profit during our trial which ended in June (see below).

Well unfortunately since then the service has done its best impression of Charlie Sheen in Terminal Velocity and taken a spectacular nosedive.

Here are the results since our trial ended on 26th June 2015 in graph format:

 

Big Race Bookie Busters Profit Graph

BRBB since 26th June 2015

 

That represents a 94 point loss and with a 100 point bank advised, it is nothing short of a disaster. If you had joined a bit later in July or August at certain points, you could have lost the entire bank.

Now that is tough to take and we were backing their tips with our own money, so felt this just as keenly as anyone else.

Of course the overall picture for BRBB is that they are still over 300 points up since the service started under a year ago, which is impressive.

But the loss of the full 100 point bank is something no service should experience. It goes without saying that the advised bank was way too small and we think the advised bank should be at least 200 points, if not 250 points given the recent drawdown.

That would put the overall results into a bit of a clearer perspective, with the service having more than doubled that 250 point bank in under a year and having experienced a 40% drawdown during that period.

So the question then becomes:

Does this service still deserve its approved rating and 5 stars?

Well clearly not the 5-star rating, that will have to be revised downwards.

Overall, it is always best to take a long-term view of betting and not to judge any service on a short period like a couple of months. 

Since the start of our review, they are still over 100 points up, which is good. 

However, we appreciate that anyone who has joined this service since our trial finished at the end of June will have lost their entire bank and no doubt given up by now – perhaps rightly.

No service should ever come close to losing its entire bank – normally that would be an automatic fail for us.

So with these two conflicting points of view, we think a downgrade to a neutral rating and 3 stars is the only fair conclusion.

We believe that for the service to regain its credibility, it should revise the advised bank to 250 points and this should be sent out to all new and existing members.

It may seem a little harsh to give a service that has produced 100 points profit a neutral rating, but we believe that it is crucial that the correct bank sizes are advised and this will serve as a warning to this and all other services to make sure this aspect is carefully looked at.

Conclusion

The wheels have come off in spectacular fashion for BRBB and it has been a painful experience for all those following their tips over the last three months. The advised bank should have been much higher than 100 points – we believe 250 points would be reasonable.

So it is a downgrade to a neutral rating and 3 stars, with a note that hopefully a more realistic bank will be advised for future subscribers to this service.

RATING: NEUTRAL  

 

 

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Big Race Bookie Busters – Final Review

26th June 2015

We have come to the end of our three month trial of Big Race Bookie Busters and here are the final results:

 

Profit/loss:+195 points
Strike Rate:35% (incl. placed horses)
Bank Growth:195%
Cost:£4.95 for 1st month then £29.95 per month or £74.95 per quarter
ROI:50%
Average number of tips:1.5 per day
VERDICT:PASSED  

 

You can view full results here

 

Big Race Bookie Busters Final Review

It has been an excellent three month trial for Big Race Bookie Busters, amassing a fantastic 195 points profit and nearly trebling the bank over the course of the trial.

That means if you had started off with £1,000, it would be worth £2,950 now.

Even at Betfair SP they managed 134 points profit and 134% growth of the bank, which is pretty exceptional.

We thought when Banker Bets nearly doubled the bank over the course of a trial it might never be beaten. 

But now we have both Master Racing Tipster and Big Race Bookie Busters smashing their records and setting a new benchmark for tipping.

It’s a very simple service to follow – you normally have just one or two bets per day and as the name suggests, these tend to be in the big races. Tips are provided for both flat and national hunt racing.

There are detailed write-ups for the selections and you can see the thinking behind the tips. It is a traditional form-based approach, focusing on horses with a range of factors in their favour for the race.

During our trial they managed a superb 50% return on investment (ROI) and their long-term returns stand at just shy of 60%. 

That is phenomenal going and we have rarely seen such impressive figures from a tipster. It will be tough to maintain these ROI levels in the long run but as long as they keep up the consistent profits then that is the main thing.

Here is a graph of their performance over the trial: 

Big Race Bookie Busters Profit Graph

As you can see, they set off like a steam train and then continued to make steady profits throughout the trial. 

 

Service Breakdown

Ease of use: Good – there are on average 1.5 bets per day so minimal work on the part of the subscriber. 

Availability of prices: OK – the tips do tend to get backed in, as evidenced by the 31% difference between results at advised prices and those at Betfair SP.

However, if you act reasonably quickly it is not impossible to get the advised prices or close to them. And even if you do just back at Betfair SP, the service still made 134 points profit over our trial, which is very good going.

Strike rate: The strike rate for the trial was good at 35% – that’s if you include placed horses – or 15% if you talk only about winners.

Advised Betting Bank: They advise a 100 point bank, which seems just about OK. The staking ranges between 1 and 6 points for each selection, with the average being just under 3, so is quite high. If you are of the more cautious mindset you may want a 150 point bank just to be on the safe side.

Subscription costs: The subscription costs are very good for a service of this quality at £4.95 for the first month then £29.95 per month, £74.95 per quarter or £199.95 for life.

 

OVERALL VERDICT: PASSED  

It’s been a fantastic trial for Big Race Bookie Busters and there’s very little not to like about this service – simple to follow and consistent profits at a very reasonable cost.

To have nearly trebled the bank in three months is an outstanding achievement and they deserve great credit for that. 

This one definitely goes on our approved list and we have no hesitation in recommending it. Get on board if you want to bust the bookies too! 

You can get Big Race Bookie Busters here

Lucky 7 Naps

Lucky 7 Naps – Final Review

We have come to the end of our trial of Lucky 7 Naps and here are the final results:

 

Profit/loss:-80 points (Betfair SP); +449 points (advised prices)
Strike Rate:25%
Bank Growth:-27% (Betfair SP)
Cost:£28.50/week, £66/month or £133.50/quarter
ROI:-5% (Betfair SP)
Average number of tips:4.6 per day
VERDICT:NEUTRAL  

 

You can view full results here.

 

Lucky 7 Naps Final Review

One of the things we pay most attention to when reviewing a service is ensuring that it is practical to follow for you good folk who read our reviews.

There is no point in a service achieving fantastic results at their advised prices, only for you to sign up and find out you can’t get anything like the advised prices and struggle to make a profit.

Well sadly in the case of Lucky 7 Naps, that has been exactly the scenario.

Whilst they have made a startling 449 points profit at advised prices, they have in fact made an 80 point loss at Betfair SP.

Now normally we would expect there to be a bit of a difference between advised prices and Betfair SP results. We would say a 25-35% difference would be acceptable.

Looking at two recent successful reviews for example, Master Racing Tipster and Big Race Bookie Busters, there was a 32% and 31% difference respectively between their advised prices and Betfair SP results.

In the case of Lucky 7 Naps however, the difference is over 100%! That’s because the Betfair SP is a minus number so we are talking about a minus percentage!

We are not mathematicians, but let’s just say the difference is over 100% and basically means the service has made a substantial loss at Betfair SP, meaning we don’t think the service is practical to follow at Betfair SP.

Here are the Betfair SP results in graph format anyway:

Lucky 7 Naps Profit Graph

As you can see, after a good start, it went quite steeply into negative territory and despite a rally late on, still ended up 80 points down. 

So if you exclude backing at Betfair SP, what about trying to match the advised prices?

Well unfortunately we found that incredibly difficult as well. Often prices would crash as soon as the e-mail containing the tips was sent out.

By the time we had logged onto Oddschecker, found the best price, logged into the relevant bookie and found the race, the price would have crashed. In some cases it would have halved in just a few minutes.

As the comments below by some of our readers suggests, that is very frustrating and we found this service a trying one to follow to say the least.

We are not sure if prices crash because the service is so popular, because bookies slash the prices as soon as they see the e-mail, or whether the tips are due to information being passed on and the insiders have already backed the tips. But whatever the reason, the prices were simply unobtainable the majority of the time. 

At advised prices, we just about broke even over the trial – and that involved a lot of work just to achieve that.

 

Service Breakdown

Ease of use: As above – quite tough. Leaving aside the aforementioned problem with prices, there are on average 4.6 bets per day, so you will be quite busy placing the bets and finding the best prices before they disappear.

Availability of prices: As we have said, very poor. Prices tend to crash very quickly and we found often as soon as we had logged into our bookie accounts after receiving the e-mail. Expect 30-50% drops in prices quite regularly.

Strike rate: The strike rate during the trial was 25%, which was ok and about in line with the long-term results we believe.

Advised Betting Bank: The advised bank was 300 points, which seems reasonable as staking is normally 5 points per bet. As Betfair SP the bank reduced by 27% over the trial.

Subscription costs: The subscription costs are high at £28.50 per week, £66 per month or £133.50 per quarter.

 

OVERALL VERDICT: NEUTRAL  

This is a difficult service to give an overall verdict on. 

On the one hand, we were tempted to give it a failed rating, based on the 80 point loss at Betfair SP and the frustrations at trying to get the prices matched.

However, to be fair if you really tried hard you might just have eeked out a profit during the period we conducted our trial, if you were really on the ball and acted the very second you received the e-mail.

In reality, we expect most people would have done as we did and broke even or made a small loss.

So whilst we cannot recommend this service and found it difficult to follow, we do not believe it deserves an outright fail either. 

We believe only services that make a big loss at all price levels should receive a failed rating and this one didn’t do that.

So on balance a neutral rating seems the fairest verdict, but with a substantial health warning that prices are very difficult to obtain.

If you fancy chancing your arm, you can check out Lucky 7 Naps here

 

Racing Professionals AW

Racing Professionals AW – Seven Month Update

It is now four months since we completed our trial of Racing Professionals AW and gave it an approved rating.

We like to keep an eye on our winning systems here at Honest Betting Reviews rather than just reviewing products and then forgetting about them.

So how have things been going since we reviewed this tipster back in March?

Well unfortunately things have taken a turn for the worse and they have dropped 35 points since the end of our trial.

You can view full results here.

That leaves them just 20 points up after seven months of bets, which translates into a 4% ROI and 20% bank growth over that period.

Unfortunately we are going to have to downgrade Racing Professionals AW to a neutral rating.

We look for services to have an ROI over 10% to be on our approved list, unless they have exceptionally high bet volume or strike rate.

More importantly though, we would look for bank growth to be significantly higher than 20% after seven months and perhaps to have doubled or more in that time.

So all in all this one doesn’t quite justify a place on our recommended list at the moment. But who knows, they do tend to tip some big priced winners, so maybe a 100/1 winner is just around the corner…

In the meantime we will continue to keep an eye on things and see if they can pick up their form again.

SEVEN MONTH VERDICT: NEUTRAL RATING  

 

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Final Review

23rd March 2015

 

Over £24,000 profit in 2014. Did it continue during our trial?

You can get the Racing Professionals AW service here

Here are the final results of our three month trial of the Racing Professionals AW service:

 

Profit/loss:+55 pts
Strike rate:20%
Bank growth:55%
Cost:       £29.99 per month
ROI:18%
Average number of tips:3 per day
VERDICT:PASSED  

 

You can view full results here

 

Racing Professionals AW Final Review

This is a service that advises 1 point level stakes bets at Betfair SP on the All-Weather. It is a complimentary service to their principal one which runs during the main flat season on the turf.

The published results on the website are excellent, running back to 2008 and range between 100 and 478 points profit a year.

Digging a little deeper though, there are some massive priced winners that make up quite a large portion of those profits.

For example, in 2014 they made 244 points profit, which is an impressive £24,400 to £100 level stakes. However, a big portion of that was made up of one winner at 100/1.

And in 2013, they made 462 points profit, but nearly half of that was made up of one winner at over 200/1.

Still, even if you take off those massive winners they are still turning a decent profit so I started out the trial with high hopes for this service.

So, how did it pan out?

I began subscribing to this service on 28th November 2014 and it has been something of a rollercoaster ride to say the least over my 3 month trial!

As you might expect by looking at past results, there were some tough losing runs during the trial.

Then all of a sudden a big priced winner would pop up to turn things around.

As it did on 24th February when Atwix won at a BSP of 74! That turned what had been a losing 2015 up until then into a nicely profitable one.

Overall  a very pleasing return of 55 points, or £2,750 to £50 level stakes during the course of the trial, for what is very little work on the part of the subscriber.

You can see the kind of rollercoaster ride it was from the graph below:

Statistics

 

Service Breakdown

Ease of use: Good, tips are sent out by e-mail and usually arrive by midday.

Availability of prices: Excellent. I particularly like that bets are advised at Betfair SP (BSP) so no fancy prices that nobody can obtain and very little time needed to place the bets.

Strike rate: The strike rate is surprisingly high for a service that picks out such huge priced winners, being around 20-30% historically. That is basically because whilst they tip at some massive prices, they also have quite a few at odds-on – and everything in between!

Advised Betting Bank: They advise a 100 point bank, which seems a little on the low side considering we were nearly 50 points down at one stage during the trial. That would have equated to half the bank. I would think a 150 point bank would be more appropriate here.

Subscription costs: A fairly reasonable £29.99 per month

OVERALL VERDICT: PASSED  

The trial finished with a nice profit of +55 points at BSP, so good results for a couple of minutes work a day.

You could say that if it hadn’t been for that one winner at 74 BSP then the trial would have finished down.

To be fair to them though, they also had second places at over 50/1 and 20/1, so as football managers are often keen to point out, luck has a tendency to level itself out over the course of a season. That seems to have been the case here rather than them having been “bailed out” with one lucky winner.

All in all then it gets the thumbs up from me and goes onto the approved list.

It does come with a bit of a health warning though – expect some big ups and downs, this is not a ride for the feint hearted!

But a great feeling when one of those massive outsiders comes romping home.

I will continue to monitor the service and provide updates on how this one performs.

You can get the Racing Professionals AW service here

Dark Horses betting tips

Dark Horses – Final Review

Did it light our way to profits?

You can get Dark Horses here.

Profit/loss:2 points
Strike rate:19%
Bank growth:4%
Cost:£30 per month
Average number of tips:10 per week
ROI:1.4%
VERDICT:NEUTRAL 

 

You can view full results here

 

Dark Horses Final Review

The third and final of our trials of Tony Gibson’s betting systems, Dark Horses is a simple betting system selecting just one or two horses per day to back.

The service claimed profits of over 300 points coming into our trial, but unfortunately as with our two other reviews of Tony’s services – the Value Seeker and Tim Russell’s Private Service – it has failed to live up to previous results during our trial.

A profit of two points was made at advised prices, whilst backing at Betfair SP (BSP) resulted in a 9 point loss.

So nothing too bad, but not something to get excited about either I’m afraid.

Ease of use: OK – you have to log in to a forum to find the selections rather than receiving them by e-mail. Tips are available by around 10 am daily (UK time) and bets are simply backed at Best Odds Guaranteed (BOG) bookmakers each morning after selections are given out. There are a maximum of 2 bets per day so shouldn’t take long to place the bets.

Availability of prices: Fairly good – prices were generally available for long enough to enable you to place bets. There was a difference of around 10 points between results at advised prices and BSP, which isn’t too bad. 

Strike rate: The strike rate during our review was 19%, which means there will be some drawdowns along the way using this service.

Advised Betting Bank: A 50 point betting bank is advised, which was never in danger of being lost during the trial and seems reasonable.

Subscription costs: The subscription costs are very reasonable at £30 per month, which includes not just the Dark Horses betting tips but a suite of other systems and tips from Tony Gibson’www.bettingsystem.info website.

OVERALL VERDICT: NEUTRAL  

As the service just made a small profit of 2 points during our trial, it doesn’t seem to quite warrant inclusion in our passed systems, and it seems fairer to put it in our neutral category for now.

I had been hoping for better things from our reviews of Tony Gibson’s systems but that is betting for you – don’t rely on anything!

Perhaps things will pick up for these systems – we will keep an eye on them and report back in due course.

Value Seeker Review

The Value Seeker Final Review

Did it find the value?

You can get the Value Seeker here

Profit/loss:0.26 points
Strike rate:14%
Bank growth:0.1%
Cost:£30 per month
ROI:0.1%
Average number of tips:2 per day
VERDICTNEUTRAL 

 

You can view full results here

 

The Value Seeker Final Review

Coming into this review the Value Seeker had notched up one of the most impressive points totals I have come across. Indeed, they asked the question themselves “Is this the greatest proofing period ever?”

With over 1200 points profit in 18 months, it was not a ridiculous claim to make. So how did it get on during our trial?

Well things got off to a rip-roaring start and I was suitably excited when just two days in, the service landed a 65/1 winner in the form of Lough Derg Walk. 

However, sadly that profit has been steadily eroded over the subsequent three months and we end up back where we started at break even point.

So no real damage done, but nothing to write home about either.

The provider of the selections Tony Gibson has clearly spent a good deal of time coming up the system and this is evidenced in his book of the same name, The Value Seeker, which is an interesting read.

Essentially it is a system for selecting unexposed horses from some of the top trainers, but I can’t really say more than that without giving too much away.

Ease of use: OK – you have to log in to a forum to find the selections rather than having them e-mailed to you. Tips are available by around 10 am daily (UK time) and it is advised to use Betfair SP, which makes things easy. There are on average about 2 bets per day so using Betfair only it shouldn’t take long to place the bets.

Availability of prices: Very good – as above, you are advised to use Betfair SP so no problem in getting the bets on and you know you can match the advertised results. 

Strike rate: The strike rate for the trial was just 14%, so patience and a good size betting bank are required.

Advised Betting Bank: A 200 point betting bank is advised, which seems more than adequate to deal with the losing runs.

Subscription costs: The subscription costs are very reasonable at £30 per month, which includes not just the Value Seeker selections but a suite of other systems and tips from Tony Gibson’s www.bettingsystem.info website.

OVERALL VERDICT: NEUTRAL  

As the service broke even over the course of the trial, the only fair verdict seems to be a placing in our neutral category.

Given the previous results and the fact that this has a well-researched and carefully thought out system behind it, we will continue to monitor results and see if there is an improvement.